BUSH'S IMMIGRATION PET PHRASES

michellemalkin.com ^ | 12/20/2004 | Michelle Malkin

[nanak]

After the White House news conference this morning, Bill Kristol on Fox News praised President Bush's remarks about "immigration reform" as "eloquent." Beg to differ. The president's open-borders statements were empty, garish platitudes strung together sloppily like cheap Christmas lights:

Illegal aliens "do the job Americans won't do." President Bush used that dog-tired phrase about a half-dozen times during today's press conference as he defended his impending illegal alien amnesty plan. Mark Krikorian effectively puts this mindless rhetoric to rest here.

"Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande." Uh huh. Well, terrorists and gang members and drunken murderers and cop-killers don't stop there either. And based on past and recent experience, granting amnesty to 13 million law-breakers will only result in more illegal immigration, not less.

We need immigration reform that "recognizes reality." Rank-and-file immigration enforcement officials give a real reality check on the amnesty debacle here, here, and here.

As immigration enforcement veteran/former U.S. prosecutor Peter Nunez put it:

[W]e need to stop the talk of a coming amnesty, or of a guest worker program, both of which, by themselves, serve to encourage additional illegal immigration. What kind of message are we sending when we dangle that possibility before people desperate enough to put their lives at risk? Doesn’t this kind of talk also indicate that we really don’t care much about law breaking, that we don’t really care that much about the rule of law, that these immigration laws exist only as a token objection to the violation of our sovereignty? Now, that is eloquent.

[11th_VA]

They aren't hurting anyone for the most part.

Except the people who want to come legally, and those of use who have to pay for their medical care via emergency rooms, public education, and other gov't services ...

PS - I'm married to a LEGAL immigrant - don't play the race card with me ...

[Nick Danger]

Should we open our borders to hundreds of millions of Chinese, Brazilians, those from El Salvador, Nicaragua, all of South America so all those retirees can play golf in Palm Springs?

I think we should put you in charge of speaking to our uppity women... especially the ones like Michelle Malkin, who are of child-bearing age. We need babies. To have working adults in 2025, we need babies now.

Men do not make babies. Women make babies. I appoint you our ambassador to women, to let them know that they can make all this immigration unnecessary. Good luck.

Tell them if they don't say 'yes,' they'll be gassed in their old age to get them out of the way, because the workers then won't be able to afford them.

Unless, of course, we import the equivalent of two cities' worth of pre-made adults every year for the next twenty years.

[DoughtyOne]

Actually, the population time bomb is in some respects a decent arguement. One aspect that you may not have considered, is that soon we are going to be competing with a nation with 1.5 billion people, for market share and world domination. It takes numbers to do that.

While I do see it as a problem of too few people, I think current policy is going about fixing it in the wrong way.

We flood the market with too much product. What always happens? The price of that product goes down. Wages are artificially low because we have a steady stream of cheap labor, and the government has decided to promote outsourcing manufacturing and clerical jobs. This further deflates the wage market.

What happens when the wages are deflated? Why of course, two people have to get up and go to work every morning. And when two people have to do this, guess what happens to the prospects of children in those households?

Nick, as I see it we have done everything possible to deflate wages in the U.S., pushing potential parents out of the home. We've done this to the point of our own ruination. Now 'the fix' is to import people for a foreign land that don't really fit like a glove. They fit more like an octagon shaped peg in a round hole. They're almost all the way there, but they're different enough that we pay a very heavy price for importing them. They can't support themselves. The come here and have excessive numbers of children which we can't afford to education or keep well.

IMO, it would be far better to reduce the workforce, let wages escalate. Let one adult stay home raising the children. And promote larger families within the nation, rather than essentilly exterminating the good citizens of the U.S. over several generations.

If we keep going like we are, this nation will be 50% Mexican by 2025 to 2030, and the white portion will be little larger than it is today. We know the reasons why. I think we should fix it.

The citizens of this nation deserve as much consideration as the citizens of another nation.

That's the way I see it.

[Joe Hadenuf]

This is what is pouring into the greatest country on earth.

A real receipe for success, brought to us by the Federal Government.

[11th_VA]

What if the other major political party is also indifferent to the problem?

"Now Larry, some has to do this ..."

[Ajnin]

The President is trying to address a serious problem seriously, and all we get are unrealistic demands and attacks on the man.

If something like the President's plan isn't adopted, we'll be left with the status quo, which is worse.

Why would Bush's immigration policy be followed when none of the previous immigration laws are followed by those that would enter illegally?

Historically, these programs have brought more illegal aliens. Just the introduction of Bush's plan created a spike in illegal alien crossings and apprehensions. If it is implemented it will create a sustained flow of illegals seeking to benefit from the "guest worker program".

[Publius6961]

If any Freeper, or Ms Malkin, can paint us the picture of a seamless, practical mass deportation without sparking a politically deadly P.R. firestorm, I'm all ears.

Answer the other question then. Do you prefer a berserk citizenry out for blood because we have a mass deportation? Or because we don't?

Think carefully before answering.

[AmericanInTokyo]

I'm so sick of this crap.

John Kerry and the libs aside, time to get behind the growing CONSERVATIVE BACKLASH on these and other issues, against The President, in the House of Representatives (which was detailed in USA TODAY, today).

[EEDUDE]

Nick I think you have a point.

But until employers are forced to collect payroll taxes on these "guest workers", they aren't doing anything to help shore up our entitlement funding.

In addition, not having to collect payroll taxes gives employers an unfair edge and is driving down wages in a very destructive way.

I happen to like most of the Mexicans that I have met. They are generally honest, hardworking, and industrious people.

I have no problem with a guest worker program as long as we beat the hell out of those employers who are cheating and hurting everyone (including the illegals) in the process.

[econ_grad]

Employers pass the cost to the taxpayers.

[dagnabbit]

Shrieking Salvadoran mothers with crying, fearful little kids being forced onto a bus will explode this nation

Straw man.

Salvadoran mothers and children quietly buying airline tickets to San Salvador to join their deported husband picked up at a workplace inspection is more realistic, as is entire illegal families quietly going south when rigorous workplace, social service agency, and school district screening makes la vida illegal too tough to keep up.

The "they'll never leave" mantra is bunk. Illegals leave all the time when conditions compel them to do so. It's just that, owing to the current Bush open-door practices, very few are compelled to depart.

[UseYourHead]

We need to foster a culture that will begin DEALING with illegal aliens. It needs to be IN THE FACE of people everyday ... The politicians need to know this is an issue that won't go away, and we won't vote for those that won't act ...

"Fostering" will not work quick enough and get enough people on board to do an effective job. Look at how many people vote for Nader - it's inadequate to do the job. We need a more forceful and rapid plan to get anything real done and that won't happen in this day and age of apathy and selfishness. Look how many voted Kerry.

Unfortunately, this nation will not act and accept the acts that a President would have to make to make a difference in less than 40 years unless the nation is jolted into acting and accepting those actions from the President. It's the Barn Door Principle that the US has always fallen back on when forced to do something. This country will face a MAJOR CATASTROPHIC event before we see anything the likes of what some advocate on this site.

[skeeter]

If something like the President's plan isn't adopted, we'll be left with the status quo, which is worse.

Thats the rub. The plan will make the problem worse. Just like it got worse after Simpson Mazolli. Just like it got worse immediately after Bush first proposed his plan.

I cannot believe so many have trouble with such a simple concept - you cannot reward illegal behavior & expect it to not continue. I guess its a matter of coming at this issue with completely different perspective.

[dagnabbit]

Good post. Bush's scheme is just more of the same old "amnesty now, enforcement...later" snake oil.

Bush isn't enforcing current immigration law. Why should we believe he will enforce a new set of laws?

[AmericanInTokyo]

Cut off social benefits and welfare (assistencia, drivers license, jobs) and they'll return to their own country on their own accord...there will be nothing up here for them. The word will also get out to others.

As it is, President Bush's retarded comments, picked up and rendered into Spanish for all the media down there, will have the net effect of whipping up interest and desire to come north again, to break into our country illegally. What is WRONG with that man!?

[sinkspur]

The "impossible" part is the will and the commitment.

There is no "will" on the part of the American people to send 8 million people back across the border to Mexico.

[Publius6961]

Who are you going to believe? Me or your own eyes?

[Nick Danger]

IMO, it would be far better to reduce the workforce, let wages escalate. Let one adult stay home raising the children.

OK, you can be our ambassador to uppity women on the subject of why they should exit the labor force. They should do this to drive up wages so that a husband could once again support a family with a single job. Then the women get married and have lots of babies, and we don't need the immigrants.

Hey, I like it. It could work. Good luck, ambassador.

[Chuckster]

Stop paying people to sit on their butts and watch Oprah and there will be more willing to take those "Jobs that Americans won't do."

[Joe Hadenuf]

Historically, these programs have brought more illegal aliens.

The results of these government actions can painfully be seen from Georgia to Idaho, and all points in between.