"Oh, they're here, I've got to go."
Now I'm not sure if that's concludes that there was an accomplice, but I normally don't say "they" unless I'm talking about more then one person.
Posted on 12/20/2004 10:57:51 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative
A CHILLING exchange on an internet chat board for rat terrier owners shows how a Kansas woman, who allegedly ripped the baby out of a pregnant dog breeder, set up the meeting.
Other exchanges show how board members figured out what must have happened and pointed police to the suspect.
The first message in the tragic chain was posted Wednesday at 4:22pm, by a woman calling herself Darlene Fischer, with the screen name "fischer4kids" -- but who authorities have said was really accused killer Lisa Montgomery.
The note was the bait to trap victim Bobbie Jo Stinnett.
"I was recommended to you by (name withheld by the New York Daily News) and have been unable to reach you by either phone or e-mail," the message read. "Please get in touch with me soon as we are considering the purchase of one of your puppies and would like to ask a few questions."
Ms Stinnett replied with a cheerful message at 7.44pm: "Darlene, I've e-mailed you with the directions so we can meet. I do so hope that the e-mail reaches you. Great chatting with you on messenger. And do look forward to chatting with you tomorrow am.
"Thanks (name withheld), and talk to you soon, Darlene! Have a great evening. Bobbie."
Montgomery had been on the chat board often, using her own name, posting photos of her rat terrier puppies and seeking mates for her breeding projects.
Early Friday morning, as news reports aired on the horrific baby snatching, regulars on the Ratter Chatter site realised the victim was one of their own. And they realised "Darlene" would have met Bobbie Jo on the day she was killed, and that the woman had arranged the deadly meeting through their chat board.
They recalled both Ms Stinnett and Montgomery discussed their pregnancies on the chat site. Montgomery, who was not pregnant, claimed she was due in days.
"Darlene Fischer was supposed to meet her on (Thursday)," wrote one poster.
One chatter figured out the internet address for Ms Fischer traced back to Kansas -- where the baby was eventually recovered at Montgomery's home.
By 8am, several members had called the police with the information they had gathered.
Police said the tips and a sighting of the suspect's car led them to Montgomery.
By the time it was over, the pain was palpable in the messages. "We just saw a murder plan in front of us and it makes me so sad," wrote one poster.
One woman wrote she'd just been told by the suspect that she was due to give birth the day Ms Stinnett was killed.
"Now I'm just sick as heck," the woman wrote.
Crossing state lines in order to commit a felony makes it Federal, assuming they want to take it up.
That's great. The empowerment of the individual is perhaps the greatest achievement of the internet. And that is working out in so many ways."
"...empowerment of the individual..." Amen (so be it)...
The Kansas Supreme Court very recently declared Kansas's death penalty to be unconstitutional.
You are so right. The day the weird post(referenced in an earlier post) to me happened, I was planning to go to a Kerry rally. I did not go because my husband could not go with me. It made me think a lot about how easy it would be to go through someone's posting history and find out all kinds of things about them.
Life w/o parole is the best this woman can plead down to.
MO juries have no problem handing down the death penalty and the prosecutor can't be seen as settling for a lesser plea just to rack up a conviction
Hi,
Here is a post I made on the Ratter Chatter board concerning this thread (And article). I've been lurking here for a number of years, but still can't figure-out how to post links that work...I wish it wasn't so hard...But here it is...
http://members3.boardhost.com/RATTERRIERS/msg/236308.html
What a sick bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Oh, they're here, I've got to go."
Now I'm not sure if that's concludes that there was an accomplice, but I normally don't say "they" unless I'm talking about more then one person.
Thanks!
There is plenty evidence that this was premeditated. It is being prosecuted federally. You can bet there WON'T be a plea down to manslaughter. She is being charged with kidnapping and causing a murder associated w/it. There was also the crossing state lines thing.
BTW, it is extremely difficult to get a NGRI (not guilty by reason of insanity) plea. Remember Andrea Yates? If ever anyone was mentally ill......and she is doing life w/out parole, not sitting in a psych hospital w/a NGRI plea.
I don't disagree w/you about the safety factor. However, these 2 women knew eachother through their group and through dog shows for OVER ONE YEAR. Bobbie knew Lisa, Bobbie did NOT know Darlene. Lisa 'baited' her....once Lisa showed at her home Bobbie didn't hesitate to open the door to her....but makes you wonder why she didn't question why Lisa was there when she clearly expected Darlene. Sadly, there are only 2 people that know what exactly transpired that day, and one is dead.
Clearly people should be cautious, not just w/online dealings but w/anyone that is let into your home. Once a person is in your home..................
Terribl, just terrible!
There are too many nuts out there in cyberspace.
Be careful, everyone.
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