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Kerry Would Beat (Jeb) Bush In 2008
CPOD ^ | Dec 20, 2004

Posted on 12/20/2004 8:10:43 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Massachusetts senator John Kerry could win the presidency in 2008, according to a poll by Opinion Dynamics released by Fox News. 45 per cent of respondents would vote for the 2004 Democratic nominee in a head-to-head contest against Republican Florida governor Jeb Bush.

In other prospective elections, New York senator and former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton leads three Republicans: Florida’s Bush, Tennessee senator Bill Frist and New York governor George Pataki.

Rodham Clinton was first elected to the U.S. Senate in 2000, defeating Republican Rick Lazio by 12 per cent. She ruled out a presidential bid in 2004.

Other high-profile Republicans who may run for office in 2008—such as former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona senator John McCain—were not included in the survey. Current president George W. Bush is constitutionally barred from seeking a third term in office.

Polling Data

Thinking ahead to the next presidential election, if the 2008 presidential election were held today and the candidates were (insert choices here), for whom would you vote?

John Kerry (D) 45% - 37% Jeb Bush (R)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 40% - 33% Bill Frist (R)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 41% - 35% George Pataki (R)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 46% - 35% Jeb Bush (R)


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008
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To: gohot

Your original point was that three Bushes elected president would mean a dictatorship. That is the point I think is silly.


61 posted on 12/20/2004 8:39:04 AM PST by KJacob (Faith is not believing God can. It is knowing God will.)
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To: marvlus

LOL

that's great... love it.

Hillary TeleTubby Clinton for 2008!
Vote Now!


62 posted on 12/20/2004 8:40:01 AM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Terpfen

47% of Americans want more polling while 37% want less polling. 16% said that John Kerry may still win Ohio.


63 posted on 12/20/2004 8:43:19 AM PST by Holicheese (Mmmmmmm clam chowder.)
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To: uncbob

I believe it is 53% now, with OVER 6 million american voter margin.

I also believe more than 60% turned out to vote.

THAT has to keep democrats awake at night.


64 posted on 12/20/2004 8:43:45 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I think the d's should nominate Jimmy Carter. He's still got a term left.


65 posted on 12/20/2004 8:48:34 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Would not!
66 posted on 12/20/2004 9:01:55 AM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Ann Coulter - 2008)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I don't believe Jeb Bush WANTS to be president, not after what they've put his brother through. No sane man would!


68 posted on 12/20/2004 9:03:11 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

However, if either Pee Wee Herman or Pat Paulson try for the Dim ticket, Kerry would not survive the Primaries.


69 posted on 12/20/2004 9:03:42 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

LOLOLOLOL.....what's this....roger ailes on drugs!!!!!!!!!!


70 posted on 12/20/2004 9:04:04 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

i guess we'd better go ahead and give up


71 posted on 12/20/2004 9:04:49 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Good ol' Coney Island College. Go WhiteFish. / pay no attention to the primedial newscasts)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Kerry would not beat Jeb in 2008 because Jeb wouldn't run.

In 2012, Jeb will defeat all comers including a Hillary re-election.

In 2008, the best bet is Frist. Give him a shot...he could be another GREAT president. Many don't know it, but he's got an 89% ACU rating as a conservative.


72 posted on 12/20/2004 9:09:15 AM PST by xzins (The Party Spirit -- the major issue that keeps me from taking them seriously.)
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To: Cliff Elkins; Tumbleweed_Connection
If we have found one family that has the clear vision and answers to the terrorist troubles in our time, why not support them indefinitely? Some of our readers appear to be overly protective of the old American ways and too connected to this "constitutional" framework. Why should we not ignore empty phrases and give the Bush Family their true powers and destiny? Let all of them rule as they see fit. We need to contribute everything we have, including our homes and our children to help George Bush and his family fight this unending war with Evil. Gott mit unds.

What a stupid comment. Since you signed up today I suspect you are a troll.

too connected to this "constitutional" framework

Jeb would have to win an election which is part of the "constitutional framework". Is there something in the Constitution that does not allow three presidents with the same last name?

73 posted on 12/20/2004 9:09:49 AM PST by KJacob (Faith is not believing God can. It is knowing God will.)
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To: Holicheese

*groan*


74 posted on 12/20/2004 9:20:29 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: KJacob

I think nominating any of these guys would be a mistake. Frist has been a lackluster SMJ and is not very charismatic. Pataki is a RINO. Jeb's last name is Bush and that's not gonna play a third time over.

We know that McCain and Rudy would beat Kerry or Hillary, but we don't HAVE to nominate one of them to do so. There are plenty of other similar candidates who don't have McCain's disloyalty problems nor Rudy's social liberalism. Mitt Romney is one. Tim Pawlenty is another. The list is quite long actually.


75 posted on 12/20/2004 9:24:29 AM PST by DaveDCMetro
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To: writer33

I know its some leftist because some Dem on C-Span a while ago admitted that the ironic thing about the FOX poll is that it is done by the OD people which is head by a former protoge of Pat Cadell and that that protoge is even more leftist than Pat Cadell.


76 posted on 12/20/2004 9:28:33 AM PST by David1
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To: Cliff Elkins; Tumbleweed_Connection; KJacob; Admin Moderator

Trust me, Cliff Elkins is a troll. Check his other post, the one about stem cells. Creative choice for a name though. I'm surprised he didn't pick Cletus or something instead.


77 posted on 12/20/2004 9:33:26 AM PST by mcg1969
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To: gohot

Oh, I see, kind of like when they voted for FDR 3 times in a row before the laws about running more than twice were enacted and our country became a dictatorship after WWII/sarcasm off. This is bull. Presidency is elected not inherited. I doubt if Jeb Bush will run but your reasoning is flawed to put it mildly.


78 posted on 12/20/2004 9:46:55 AM PST by calex59
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To: David1

Yep. And look how far off the Fox poll was on Election Day. It's a credit to the American people. That's why I don't take too much stock in polls.


79 posted on 12/20/2004 9:56:24 AM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative)
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To: APFel
I agree. This poll reveals surprising weakness for both Kerry and Clinton, since the hypothetical opponents are basically unknown outside their home states and news junkies.
80 posted on 12/20/2004 9:59:21 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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