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To: beyond the sea

This guy is exactly right.

This is not a popular administration, and that a candidate as bad as Kerry came that close to winning shows it.

Most people disagree with the massive spending and deficits. With Ashcroft. With the PATRIOT act. With the way the Iraq war is being handled. With the way homeland security is being handled. And much more.

But the same people are absolutely disgusted with Michael Moore calling America an imperialist dictatorship out for oil and our soldiers a bunch of murderers.

Disagreement beat disgust 51-48.

If the Dems had the sense to run a moderate and disown Michael Moore and the Blame America First fringe, they would have won with 325 if not 350 EVs.


100 posted on 12/19/2004 10:32:10 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: CGTRWK
No, they would not have.

Any of the so called moderate dems are a pretty pathetic bunch with lots of history, but they might have reversed the EV count, at best.

We won, Kerry did not just lose.

We won by getting out our right of center voting base, that does not all turn out all of the time, and is larger than the dems and the media imagined.

Putting a Gephart or Lieberman would not have changed that. In fact you have to consider this:

Without a very high profile, slanderous, muck raking appeal to the activists and far out leftists, then:
Bush might have won by that 350EV margin
130 posted on 12/19/2004 10:59:04 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: CGTRWK

I agree. A truly moderate Southerner - a Sam Nunn or Nunn type - would probably have won.


133 posted on 12/19/2004 11:04:45 AM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: CGTRWK
If the Dems had the sense to run a moderate and disown Michael Moore and the Blame America First fringe, they would have won with 325 if not 350 EVs.

If turnout is over 120 million John Kerry will win with well over 300 electoral votes.

176 posted on 12/19/2004 12:45:56 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: CGTRWK
One more time. Your assessment is not correct.

Don't forget that every news story..... day in and day out was colored and slanted by the lefty PRESS against Bush. Don't forget that when you claim that Bush squeaked by over a crappy candidate and that he is not popular. The media cards were stacked every day and every week against Bush. It was RELENTLESS. Don't forget that effect!!!!!

Bush would have buried Kerry, would have won around 56% of the vote if it weren't for the demented/hateful/overwhelming/ destructive/lefty/socialist/old media! Don't forget that. You have forgotten that.

188 posted on 12/19/2004 1:13:56 PM PST by beyond the sea (Can boys join the Camp Fire Girls? ....... Only after lights out.)
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