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To: CGTRWK
No, they would not have.

Any of the so called moderate dems are a pretty pathetic bunch with lots of history, but they might have reversed the EV count, at best.

We won, Kerry did not just lose.

We won by getting out our right of center voting base, that does not all turn out all of the time, and is larger than the dems and the media imagined.

Putting a Gephart or Lieberman would not have changed that. In fact you have to consider this:

Without a very high profile, slanderous, muck raking appeal to the activists and far out leftists, then:
Bush might have won by that 350EV margin
130 posted on 12/19/2004 10:59:04 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

They ran Senator Fonda from Massachusetts. The most left-wing guy in the entire Senate. Changed his position from week to week. Changed his campaign slogan from week to week too. We would come up with a good talking point of the week, and he wouldn't even respond because he was taking his jet from mansion to mansion to go snowboarding. There was the raving lunatic heiress who would be first lady. The ambulance chasing lawyer of a running mate who was so slimy he wouldn't have won re-election in his own state.

These guys not only fit every stereotype we have for whats wrong with the left, they've given us new ones we'll be using for years to come. Global test? Gin and raisins? Vote for us and we'll raise you from your wheelchairs? Short of Al Sharpton, we could not have asked for more.

And with all this on our side, we barely won. Yes we got our base out pretty well, but so did they. The idea that we won this through hard right turnout isn't born out in the numbers. The solid right base made up about the same percent of the vote it did in 2000. Where we won this was by picking up a couple more points in the unaffiliated middle. And we picked those people up cause Michael Moore and John Fonda disgusted the hell out of them.



165 posted on 12/19/2004 12:26:30 PM PST by CGTRWK
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