Posted on 12/19/2004 1:24:42 AM PST by Stoat
THE SAN FRAN GUN BAN
By Michelle Malkin · December 17, 2004 04:11 PM
You've got to hand it to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. They are unrepentant, unabashed, and undeterred gun grabbers--and there ain't nuthin' that's gonna stop 'em from trampling all over the Second Amendment. Here's the AP/SFgate.com story outlining the board's sweeping gun ban proposal. Volokh notes it would ban the possession of handguns as well as the sales of all firearms and ammunition, including shotguns and rifles.
Defending the proposal, an official explained: "The hope is twofold, that officers will have an opportunity to interact with folks and if they have a handgun, that will be reason enough to confiscate it." Clayton Cramer responds to this deadly Big Nannyism: I love that: "an opportunity to interact with folks...." What they mean is that if the police find someone carrying a gun, they can arrest them and confiscate the gun. Oh, but they already can do so. It is unlawful to carry a concealed handgun in California without a permit (Cal. Penal Code 12025), or to carry a loaded firearm in an incorporated area (like San Francisco) openly (Cal. Penal Code 12031) and when they arrest you for either violation, they confiscate the gun.
Some of the gun ban advocates are using the old public health rationale and are touting the measure as a suicide-prevention strategy. Which prompted two great comments. One from Cramer and one from Opinion Journal.com's James Taranto: Cramer. Wait a minute: I thought liberals supported the right to suicide. They certainly support physician-assisted suicide. But they oppose suicide with a gun? Does anyone besides me find that just a bit bizarre? Advocates of the ban present it as a suicide-prevention measure. Says Bill Barnes, an aide to Supervisor Chris Daly: "We know that for even law-abiding folks who own guns, the rates of suicide and mortality are substantially higher. So while just perceived to be a crime thing, we think there is a wide benefit to limiting the number of guns in the city."
Update: Xrlq notes this is a repeat from 22 years ago. |
THE SAN FRAN GUN BAN
By Michelle Malkin · December 17, 2004 04:11 PM
You've got to hand it to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. They are unrepentant, unabashed, and undeterred gun grabbers--and there ain't nuthin' that's gonna stop 'em from trampling all over the Second Amendment. Here's the AP/SFgate.com story outlining the board's sweeping gun ban proposal. Volokh notes it would ban the possession of handguns as well as the sales of all firearms and ammunition, including shotguns and rifles.
Defending the proposal, an official explained: "The hope is twofold, that officers will have an opportunity to interact with folks and if they have a handgun, that will be reason enough to confiscate it." Clayton Cramer responds to this deadly Big Nannyism: I love that: "an opportunity to interact with folks...." What they mean is that if the police find someone carrying a gun, they can arrest them and confiscate the gun. Oh, but they already can do so. It is unlawful to carry a concealed handgun in California without a permit (Cal. Penal Code 12025), or to carry a loaded firearm in an incorporated area (like San Francisco) openly (Cal. Penal Code 12031) and when they arrest you for either violation, they confiscate the gun.
Some of the gun ban advocates are using the old public health rationale and are touting the measure as a suicide-prevention strategy. Which prompted two great comments. One from Cramer and one from Opinion Journal.com's James Taranto: Cramer. Wait a minute: I thought liberals supported the right to suicide. They certainly support physician-assisted suicide. But they oppose suicide with a gun? Does anyone besides me find that just a bit bizarre? Advocates of the ban present it as a suicide-prevention measure. Says Bill Barnes, an aide to Supervisor Chris Daly: "We know that for even law-abiding folks who own guns, the rates of suicide and mortality are substantially higher. So while just perceived to be a crime thing, we think there is a wide benefit to limiting the number of guns in the city."
Update: Xrlq notes this is a repeat from 22 years ago. |
Only well-trained military and police forces need handguns.
One for your SF ping list, CJ. These idiots think they're above the laws of the land. Laws mean whatever they want them to mean, including the second amendment.
I agree. Why not be honest and let people do a Final Exit with their own guns if they wish? This from the party of partial birth abortion and assisted suicide. One hand never washes the other.
When can we expect Leftist-cheered "maverick mayor" Gavin Newsom to flaunt the law and start issuing Concealed-Carry weapons permits to anyone who shows up at City Hall? You know, like he defied the law by issuing marriage certificates for every rump ranger who showed up...
I think all pro-abortion morons ought to off themselves in defiance. I call it retroactive abortion. If they think killing children in the womb is ok, then logically killing a piece of crap advocate of murder is fine too.
I will loan them my gun to do it.
How can Conservatives stand to live in California?
We've all got guns
Are yall willing to loan a few to pro-abortion murderers and show them how to use them on themselves? ;-)
"No, that is not the trigger that's the safety. Here is the trigger."
Ban gas ovens!
Defending the proposal, an official explained:
"The hope is twofold, that officers will have an opportunity to interact with folks and if they have a handgun, that will be reason enough to confiscate it."
Based on a "hope", the rights of the citizens are to be taken? This is criminal.
Semper Fi,
Oh Shiite - this means no more Dirty Harry movies.
/sarcasm
Home invasion crimes and murders will skyrocket -- this is so predictable. Also, does anyone want to compare the number of San Franciscans who have used guns in suicides vs. the number of San Franciscans who have died of AIDS? And yet gay bath houses are sacred to the leftists -- no public health problem there! Yeah, right. The left will use this to force their "morality" on the rest of us, there "morality" being to let criminals run riot and to make ordinary people defenseless.
Bump
Some of us conservatives in California were born here. It is difficult at times, but we aren't going to give up. This is the state that elected Regan as Governor - twice. Large parts of the state voted for Bush (geographically), but we get outnumbered in LA and SF. Winning hearts and changing minds isn't easy, but you wouldn't give up on one of your kids would you. We aren't giving up on California and need more than the kneejerk reaction that passes for conventional wisdom here at Freerepublic. 48% of the US did not vote for GWB, so the rest of the US has a problem too. We just got a higher concentration of liberal idiots than you do. In fact, because they are concentrated here, it makes life easier in your red state. Think about it. We have taken out YOUR garbage. All those gays in SF came from your state. Hollywierd came from NY, etc.
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