Posted on 12/19/2004 12:59:24 AM PST by quietolong
Girl Wrestler
Texas teenager Tara Neal insists that girls and boys should be able to wrestle on the same mat.
Filmmaker Diane Zander follows Neal through the last year in which state guidelines allow her to wrestle boys.
It's a year filled with family conflict, pressure to cut weight and fierce policy debates over Title IX, which grants women's athletics proportionality in public schools
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that isnt my experience in a wrestling crazy state but ok whatever you say....
being from Ohio, wrestling is only really behind football, especially in the high school I went too.
All of the wrestlers held the pro/fake wrestlers in contempt if someone tried to say it was real. Even the pro/fake wrestlers say it is fake. It isnt anyone's goal that they are in amateur wrestling just to make it to the pros. thats a joke and certainly the 1% of the wrestlers out there that are girls are doing to prove it to themselves and everyone else that they can hang, not to become professional wrestlers. What a joke....
I can't vouch for how effective his classes are, but Bob "Thunder" Thurman was one of the best in full contact competition.
There is a huge difference between competition MA and defensive fighting. And the most important thing that anyone can have, more so than a gun or any sort of MA training is SA... "Situational Awareness." While MA training or having a CCW is helpful in defending yourself, if you're in a situation where you can't act to defend yourself, you've already lost.
Mark
First off, let me state for the record that I do NOT watch "Professional Wrestling!" Now that I've got that out of the way, I would NEVER call that stuff "fake." Many of these "entertainers" are excellent athaletes. I would call it scripted, and planned out in advance, but not fake.
Mark
Given how much gripping and touching is involved (though it is not sexual) in wrestling.
I competed in freestyle in high school. We were lucky enough to have a recent immigrant from Denmark who was the Danish national junior champion. Before he arrived their was no wresling program in our city below University competition.
One of the first things I had to learn was how to put 'intimate contact' out of my mind while competing.
Freestyle is very up close and personal.
I'm glad she did her own stunts - but that doesn't have anything to do with martial arts or fighting. When you throw a punch in TV land, you do NOT connect. It is kind of like when Kevin Sorbo (sp? - Hercules) was lifting in a gym and one of the guys said, "You aren't that strong!" "Darn it," Kevin replied, "Guess that means my Dad wasn't really Zeus, either!"
If martial arts aren't practiced as full-contact & competitive, then it is just a cross between ballet and wishful thinking!
When I was in highschool around50 years ago, nothing would have tempted me more to join the wrestling team than to get to wrestle a girl. Actually I think it's pretty funny, the weaker sex wanting to wrestle a man, what on earth?
It is fake in terms of storylines and stuff...
the physical contact is for real though, you are correct....
people really get messed up.
To sum it up, I feel it's completely unfair and innappropriate. You can't just "stop" wood, people...
"Think about baseball...No! Think about Hillary...No...Helen Thomas in a tanga...Helen Thomas in a tanga....1-2-3-PIN!!!"
I'm just not a "modern" guy...
I may have seen that match.
I recall a female karate champ goading a male champ into a match.
She was very agressive, he basically defending himself.
She kept up the goading until he finally indicated his willingness to really fight.
The match lasted about 3 more seconds. He overpowered her instantly.
It shut her up.
I lost every wrestling event with a girl after that. Always in the same move.
I am a slow learner . :)
As long as girls don't expect any special treatment or qualification easements, I expect it's OK. They also have to remember that if they want to be on a boys' team, boys will be boys sometimes, so either put your foot down (not a lawyer's), suck it up, or find yourself a girls' team.
Boys and girls have been wrestling on the same mats same Adam and Eve. What's the big deal?
Actually, what Bob teaches is NOT to be used against "purse snatchers." What he teaches is situational awareness (i.e. making sure you never get into a vulnerable situation), and what to do when you're life is in danger, and you have no other choice. Bob was PKA (full contact) middle weight world champion for 9 years, and retired when his wife was attacked and nearly murdered in a parking lot. Once he nursed her back to health, he began working with her on "last line of defense" techniques. Nearly all of what he teaches is close quarter, grappling techniques, most of which will cause permanent damage and some even death. One example is keeping your car keys in your fist in such a way to allow gouging someone in the eyes with your keys, blinding them. Again, these are things that would only be used when you feel your life is in danger already, and there's no other chance of getting out of it.
There's no guarantee that his techniques will work, but then there's no guarantee that having a CCW will protect you either.
Mark
yep....see my #24
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