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Two county deputies shot, along with suspect (Two ARIZONA COPS shot by ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!)
East Valley Tribune ^ | 12/17/2004 | Kim Smith and Kristina Davis

Posted on 12/18/2004 6:45:29 PM PST by nanak

Two Maricopa County sheriff's deputies were shot Thursday during the serving of a search warrant in east Mesa. A suspect was shot by a third deputy.

Deputy Sean Pearce, who is the son of Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, was shot in the abdomen. He was flown to Maricopa Medical Center in Phoenix, where he underwent surgery to remove part of his large intestine. Deputy Lew Argetsinger was shot in the hand and taken by ambulance to the medical center. Both were stable.

The suspect, Jorge Luis Guerra Vargas, 22, was flown to Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center in Phoenix with nonlife-threatening facial injuries.

According to authorities, detectives with the Pinal County Sheriff's Office wanted to execute a search warrant at the mobile home of a homicide’s investigative lead, but asked Maricopa County SWAT team members to enter first to ensure their safety.

Lt. Dave Trombi said seven members of the team knocked on the door at 111 S. 91st Way at 6:35 a.m., announced their presence in English and Spanish, then broke through the door. They were a short distance inside when a subject opened fire.

Both deputies shot were wearing ballistic body armor, but Pearce was struck in an unprotected spot, Trombi said.

A third deputy returned fire on GuerraVargas, who was alone in the home, Trombi said.

Pinal County Sheriff's Office spokesman Mike Minter said detectives had hoped to obtain evidence pertaining to a recent homicide in Hewlitt Station, a community near Queen Valley.

A hunter called deputies Dec. 5 after he found a body with a gunshot wound to the head buried under a pile of scrap lumber, Minter said.

Investigators found fresh tire tracks on the scene, and the clue led authorities to the mobile home.

Esteban Soto, the investigative lead in the case, was found Thursday in New Mexico and is being detained for questioning there.

Deputies are still working to identify the body, which is described as a 20- to 25-year-old Hispanic male.

Pearce has been on the force for 11 years, Deputy Argetsinger for three years.

Rep. Pearce, said he was in Washington, D.C., testifying on an immigration panel when he was told his son had been shot.

"He is feisty. He will do well," he said. "I guarantee that the moment he is allowed back, he will put that uniform on and be out there doing police work."

Russell Pearce also was shot in the chest and hand in the line of duty about 20 years ago while chasing gang members in Guadalupe.

Efforts to contact Argetsinger's family were unsuccessful.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Comment #401 Removed by Moderator

To: ALIPAC
Skin HeadS for Tancredo eh?

I'm not going to link to stormfront. Do your own search.

402 posted on 12/19/2004 7:33:45 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Stay warm and keep them dogs warm too!


404 posted on 12/19/2004 7:43:34 PM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: staytrue
Why can't we just open the floodgates to say, fifty million Chi-Coms who are not getting their "fair chance" at the American Dream?

We can't because they are Chinese and not European. It is the same reason that all Chinese were banned during the great European migration in the late 1880-1920's. It is the same reason that later Chinese were allowed to immigrate, as long as the yearly quote was less than 102.

Gee whiz staytrue, that sure sounds like a racist comment to me, if I didn't know better. You are saying we should allow in as many Mexicans as can make it over the border because they are European, but block millions of Chinese due to their non-European race?

And you RINOOBLs have the chutzpah to call defenders of American sovereign borders racists. Look in the mirror, why don't you.

406 posted on 12/19/2004 7:48:09 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: B4Ranch

And the snake...


407 posted on 12/19/2004 7:48:11 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Speak softly and carry a gopher snake!)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Welcome back, AFE.


408 posted on 12/19/2004 7:49:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Happy2BMe; ApesForEvolution
Well, well, well . . look what the alligators drug in . . . :~)

haha! Welcome back, AFE !! :^D


409 posted on 12/19/2004 7:49:27 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: Once-Ler

You should spend more time at the economic threads such as free trade. The hand writing is on the wall. The decent paying manufacturing jobs are heading for China and Asia. The shrinking pie effect is coming into play. In fact many posters on those threads think that is wonderful. I admire many things about the Mexican culture, but if they can't get it together in their homeland, what does that portend for our Republic? Again, our own gub-mint is greasing the skids. Remember the big selling point about NAFTA? Mexico will no longer need to send their people North?
They could at least give the courtesy of a ..... around.


410 posted on 12/19/2004 7:56:38 PM PST by investigateworld (( You may spel-chek at your option ))
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To: FITZ

"I believe they could be a middle class society if they were to make some serious reforms --- but the people of Mexico are quite Socialist --- with a 70% labor unionization rate as opposed to about 10% for the USA. And that is only the non-agricultural labor force --- the campesinos still have the ejido system --- which looks like Communism but in some ways maybe works for them ---- many farmers lost out when some of the ejidos were privatized because they lost their irrigation.
Maybe..."

Sometime in the previous decade, a US Info stat indicated that 65% of the Mexican(Indigenous)population lives in third world conditions. The wealth and power in Mexico is essentially held by Europeans and by some Gringos (American interests). The government is no more than a bureaucracy supporting a police state which is obligated to maintain the status quo for a small Euro-elite wealthy class. For instance, Puerto Vallarta is really an American-invested tourist/leisure colony protected by the "Federales."

The social injustices, corruption, and every other evil attributed to entrenched depotism applies to Mexico, and these are too entrenched to be addressed and overturned by "reforms." Mexico's Trotskyites have been working at revolution since the mid-1800's - now mainly in Chiappas(sp?)without hope of agitating real Bolschevic upheaval.

Mexico operates on OLD WORLD principles of power and privilege - it is NOT a democracy. Reforms? Impossible. Just read Mexico's history and you'll will understand what it is today. Of Mexico's population, approx. 65% belong to the poor class: the indigenous people who live in the same conditions that existed in the 1800's - bare subsistance.

As far as Human Rights are concerned, the Human Rights watchdogs should cite Mexico's government as a prime violator instead of trivial bitching about the conditions under which the U.S.A. confines terrorist combatants. It is a travesty of all reason that appointed members to the UN representing Saddam's Iraq and Mexico would sit on the UN's Human Rights committee.

America's strength as well as its legacy is its Middle Class majority. Even with "reforms", is it impossible for indigenous Mexicans to progress within a few generations from a repressed(65%)poor class to a viable middle class. The ruling Euro-elite in Mexico would love to have all the Meztisos and Indigenous poor infiltrate the U.S.

I have great compassion for the poor people of Mexico.
My ultimate compassion is for hardworking taxpaying Americans - the majority, the middle class, the Red Staters - who are incrementally disenfranchised by their own government and who are insulted by snotty "humanistic" liberals.
















411 posted on 12/19/2004 7:58:31 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: budwiesest
If the fedgov is going to continue to selectively enforce laws, Americans at some point are going to decide to selectively obey them.

I just want a list of the federal laws which "really count" and I have to obey, and a list of the laws which the feds will ignore (like they ignore immigration laws.)

How about if we stop paying attention to tax laws, for example? Will the fedgov say, "Well, there are so many millions of Americans not paying all of their taxes, we'll just forget about them, and give them a tax amnesty. It would be impossible to collect it all, or jail them all, so let's just quit trying."

Like hell they would.

The fedgov will crush a white-haired granny's face into the snow until she coughs up the $3,000 she didn't know she had to pay back in 1998. In fact, they'll put a lien on her house, and throw her out into the snow for the missing $3,000.

Meanwhile, millions of illegal aliens stampede right past the federal agents, undisturbed. And each is costing far, far more than granny's unpaid tax bill.

Do we have a rule of law (one law for all) in this country, or not?
412 posted on 12/19/2004 7:59:16 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Once-Ler
I'm not going to link to stormfront.

Saaaaaadaaaup.

413 posted on 12/19/2004 7:59:39 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class. They decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ALIPAC

Careful, or he'll call you a neo-Nazi "Stormfront" racist.

Like all RINOOBLs, it's his only debating point: the race card.


414 posted on 12/19/2004 8:01:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Joe Hadenuf; Fatalis; ApesForEvolution; Max Combined
When they lose the argument, they always play this card:

Really pathetic. They must think it's still 1990 or something, and that card will still always win by shutting up their PC-whipped adversaries.

They're like a moron plunking one flat note over and over on a broken penny piano, and thinking in his feeble brain he's playing Beethoven.

415 posted on 12/19/2004 8:10:04 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Once-Ler
Without jobs what other choice do they have to feed their families? I believe 15 million people flooding Mexico can produce no other likely scenario.

Maybe it's time for Mexican citizens to turn to their own government for help. That is what governments are for, to help their own citizens.

416 posted on 12/19/2004 8:13:12 PM PST by usadave
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To: Once-Ler

Do you actually believe that you know what is happening on the southwest border with illegal immigration? I'm just curious considering the fact that your home page has a Wisconsin flag.


417 posted on 12/19/2004 8:24:53 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: Once-Ler

Have you even seen an illegal alien?


418 posted on 12/19/2004 8:27:49 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: purpleland

In the last couple of years there have been some changes in the demographics of those crossing the border. It used to be mostly the campesinos, now it includes a large number of what might constitute a Mexican middle class.

I've cleaned up and examined a number of illegal alien load-out sites. When they cross the fence, most are carrying backpacks, but when they reach the load-out site the coyotes make them abandon anything that can't fit in a pocket. Less luggage; more passengers.

What I have found is a fair amount of social stratification, even amongst the illegals. At sites used by those from the lower end of the food chain, the backpacks seldom contain more than a change of underware and socks, a few toiletries, and a couple of water bottles.

At sites patronized by the more affluent, shaking down abandoned packs can yield very surprising results. Excellent quality clothing, some of it still wrapped (better than I usually buy for myself); high end cosmetics and toiletries (confirmed by my daughter, the world's expert on such things); good quality canned and freeze-dried food. Airline ticket stubs -- they flew to the border.

You almost never find the steerage class luggage mixed up with the cabin class.


420 posted on 12/19/2004 8:36:51 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Speak softly and carry a gopher snake!)
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