The Other Side Of Slavery; A British Perspective

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[Captain Kirk]

Well....Marx didn't really have much success during this lifetime in Britain. Before the beginning of the twentieth century, most British workers before the twentieth century voted for the Liberals, a largely classical liberal, pro-free trade party. When it came, the greatest success for Marxism was in the more backward countries of Europe....and to a lesser extent in Western Europe beginning in the early twentieth century.

British workers, like all workers, wanted opportunity to work during this period. They read folks like Samuel Smiles who promoted thrift and hard work. Also, they generally opposed chattel slavery. In fact, pressure brought British workers were largely responsible for preventing intervention on the CSA side in the Civil War.

[cyborg]

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[VOA]

I love the British, at least the educated ones. If I had to pick one place to
live if it couldn't be the United States, it'd be there. That or Australia.

I've only visited the UK once (Bath/Bristol region).
Among the fifty or so academics I met (professional colleagues), many would
eventually bring up their hatred of conservative British politicians.
They thought Lady Thatcher was the Anti-Christ. (well, at least the few that
had contact with Christian culture, I suppose.)

The one memorable departure from these diatribes occurred on a visit to
a postal shop in Bristol.
Incidentally, the fellow running the shop learned I was from "flyover country, USA".

The good fellow energetically bent my ear with questions about the Old West,
Native Americans and "heartland America" culture/legend.

If I ever get back to England, I can tell you who I will seek out
to buy a few pints at the local pub.

PS: the other destination: Alberta.
If any province of Canada ever breaks away and joins the USA...that will be the one.
(and then BC will follow as well...as part of "Greater California)

[sasportas]

"and then BC will follow."

No expert on BC, but as an Alaskan who has travelled through BC on my way to "lower 48" quite a bit, but I think you would have to minus Vancouver first before your statement be correct. BC is like Washington, the left coast (Seattle, Vancouver) rules.

[Verginius Rufus]

Yes, the John Newton mentioned in the 10th paragraph is the same as the author of Amazing Grace...but maybe they assumed everyone knew that...or else that they were unfamiliar with the hymn.

[VOA]

Vancouver first before your statement be correct. BC is like Washington,
the left coast (Seattle, Vancouver) rules.

I generally agree with your assessment. BC is culturally more liberal than
Alberta (no shock there)...
in my rambling speculation, I was just thinking that if Alberta ever
did anything as extreme as leaving Canada and joining the USA, BC might also
look at the map and bolt as well, although they'd be more like an added Washington/
Oregon/CA.