WHETHER THE SECOND AMENDMENT SECURES AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT

United States Department of Justice - Office of Legal Counsel ^ | August 24, 2004 | DOJ

[superskunk]

Great tagline!!!

[wizr]

Yep. We, here at FR, are just neighbors across the fence. Hope I didn't go on too much or stutter. Thanks for the 'ear'.

Mike

[zeugma]

For much more information about the miller decision itself, see this link on my website. It contains just about every legal paper you can find concerning the decision itself.

[muir_redwoods]

The really cool thing about the 2nd amendment is that it is the only right that brings with it the protection of that right. Somebody wants my gun? Come and try to take it. They might win but they will take losses.

[muir_redwoods]

"The first ten Amendments of the Constitution were done to secure the rights of the people to be free from the tyranny of the state. Only the left-wing says the 2nd Amendment was for the many and not the one."

In essense you are right but the tenth amendment secures the rights of the states over the feds. It's a minor point but be prepared for it if you want to argue this case.

[SERE_DOC]

it depends on how far your willing to push it, if you believe that your right is to keep and bear arms, that means that if the gov comes in to remove them (for no reason) then it is well within your rights to ventilate the reprobate.

[superskunk]

No problem. That's why we're all here.

[superskunk]

Don't jinx yourself, dude. Remember Janet Reno...Texas barbecue...

[superskunk]

The rights of the states were never meant to supercede federal authority. It was only meant to keep the federal government from becoming...well, what it is today.

[zeugma]

Great tagline!!!

Thanks! It's something that one of my daughters came up with. I liked it too obviously. :-)

[superskunk]

it depends on how far your willing to push it, if you believe that your right is to keep and bear arms, that means that if the gov comes in to remove them (for no reason) then it is well within your rights to ventilate the reprobate.


Technically, your correct. In a real world scenario, I would have to decide how my patriotic duty could best be served. Hard to evaluate 'till your actually faced with it.

[superskunk]

Smart girl. Excellent wit!

[Fenris6]

"when its words are read as they were understood at the Founding"

Also note that "well regulated" had an entirely different meaning in 1783 - it meant "ordered and effecient", not "government oversight".

[Fenris6]

"These last words are the most powerful in the entire Bill of Rights; they suppose (and impose) the heavy burden of proof upon the government to show cause why anyone's RKBA should be restricted."

Exactly. Imagine if you had to register and pay a fee to exercise your 1st Ammendment rights.

[superskunk]

Absolutely right!!! It's an important distinction that the liberal choose to ignore, because they think that govt. is benevolent and people are inherently evil.

"If you can't trust the governments of the world, then who can you trust?"

-from the movie "Young Einstein"

[superskunk]

Imagine if you had to register and pay a fee to exercise your 1st Ammendment rights.


I wouldn't have minded registering my gun if I was guaranteed that the info would only be used to catch criminals. That type of database is prone to govt. abuse.

[Travis McGee]

bttt

[Fenris6]

"I wouldn't have minded registering my gun if I was guaranteed that the info would only be used to catch criminals. That type of database is prone to govt. abuse."

Yup. The Germans created registration lists to quell violence in their streets between Nazi and Communist gangs. When the Nazi came to power, they used those lists to confiscate weapons from their political enemies.

[derllak]

I read all of it... now my head hurts big time! But I guess it means I can get the FAL out of the gun cabinet, sling it on my shoulder, and go take the dog for a walk. I just hope the neighbors read the same article!

[Dead Corpse]

BTTT?

*Ka-BUMP!*

And lastly... me and my Mistress...