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'Out of control'
Toronto Sun ^ | December 17, 2004

Posted on 12/17/2004 6:38:33 AM PST by Clive

THE YOUNG people responsible for the wave of swarmings and violent attacks that have left three GTA teens dead in two weeks are "out of control and accountable to no one," Toronto's police chief said last night. "Counting the bodies as we do is simply not adequate," Julian Fantino said last night after a community meeting at East York Collegiate Institute, the school Drew Stewart attended before his death at the hands of a youth mob.

"We have to find out why, at the most minor confrontation, weapons are brought out. Why there's this pack mentality," Fantino said, stressing that the large majority of kids are still hardworking, upstanding citizens who do not deserve to be "blackballed."

"But there's an element of young people that are, in fact, out of control and accountable to no one," Fantino said.

"And there is a distorted value system among them that says coming forward (to police or their parents) is not cool."

The chief spoke just hours after a mob of at least 30 teens armed with rakes, golf clubs, sticks and baseball bats attacked six students behind a Scarborough high school.

Three of the students were taken to Scarborough Grace hospital after the 1:46 p.m. attack in a large wooded area behind the Finch Ave. and Brimley Rd. school. Their injuries were not life threatening.

"We've never had anything like this happen before," said Francis Libermann Catholic high school principal Tracey Parish. "It's unbelievable."

Toronto Catholic District School Board spokesman Emmy Milne said the six students, all in Grades 10 and 11, were returning from lunch when they were swarmed.

"They were off school property but they were assaulted by a large group of young people, and at this point, it's not clear where these young people are from," Milne said.

The rest of the students were dismissed early for the day while police searched the area.

The York Region Police helicopter searched the woods while patrols scoured teen hangouts and Internet cafes for suspects. Investigators said there have been no arrests.

The attack came 24 hours after an unrelated swarming in Brampton on Wednesday in which two teens were stabbed and another bludgeoned.

Between 10 and 15 teens attacked the three victims -- two age 18 and another age 17. The victims are listed in stable condition and their injuries are not life-threatening, said Peel Regional Police.

STABBED

Police arrested four teen suspects and are still searching for at least six others.

Other altercations this month proved deadly.

Tanner Hopkins, 18, was stabbed to death just after 1 a.m. on Saturday when he attempted to eject two uninvited guests from his younger brother's house party.

Earlier Saturday night, Nabil Saleh, 19, died after being stabbed during an argument in a College St. and Spadina Ave. nightclub.

Brad Fraser, 18, was shot to death last Friday in his basement apartment in an Oshawa roominghouse. Police charged a man in the shooting, which they say was the result of a home-invasion robbery.

Drew Stewart, 16, was fatally stabbed Dec. 3 while trying to stop a group of teens assaulting a pregnant pal.

"There's an element of young people out here who seem to be very much into crime and violence," he said.

But Fantino stressed the vast majority of teens are good, hardworking citizens.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: gangs
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1 posted on 12/17/2004 6:38:33 AM PST by Clive
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To: Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; mitchbert; ...

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2 posted on 12/17/2004 6:38:54 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive

Well, this is simply shocking. I mean, how can anyone ever be killed in Canadia anymore, since they made everyone register their guns? Don't the criminals know they aren't supposed to be able to commit violence now that all those laws have been passed?


Oh, wait.....criminal...not law-abiding...EUREKA!


3 posted on 12/17/2004 6:42:17 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Clive

"But Fantino stressed the vast majority of teens are good, hardworking citizens."

Hehe, I wasn't born yesterday Fantino.


4 posted on 12/17/2004 6:44:09 AM PST by ruiner
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To: Clive

You can lay this at the feet of "I can do whatever I want" liberalism. No moral center, no black, no white, no right, no wrong, just what "feels" right at the moment.


5 posted on 12/17/2004 6:44:28 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Clive

This is what you get from 30 years of Liberal government. It's not their fault, the poor dears. They just need to be shown the right path. Sheesh.


6 posted on 12/17/2004 6:44:42 AM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
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To: Clive

It will be interesting to read freepers hypotheses for the causes...


7 posted on 12/17/2004 6:45:06 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Clive

Looks like we have to start a registry for rakes, golf clubs, baseball bats, sticks and knives.

And maybe pillows while we're at it...they smother people.


8 posted on 12/17/2004 6:45:08 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: Clive

With the new socialist values they are teaching there, shouldn't they all be little angels of the state?


9 posted on 12/17/2004 6:45:32 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: JudyinCanada

Oops, forgot panty-hose. They choke people if applied around the neck.


10 posted on 12/17/2004 6:46:19 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

These poor kids were understandably distraught after becoming aware of all the liberal "were' sorry" crybaby losers that would soon be moving to Canada!


11 posted on 12/17/2004 6:50:10 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: Clive

My company has asked me if I might be interested in a job in Calgary. I think this article has helped me make the decision. If this happened here in the states, Mr. Glock would have saved the day. Canadia has painted their good citizens into a corner. It is time for those good citizens to come out fighting!!


12 posted on 12/17/2004 6:50:53 AM PST by MysticCrusader
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" I mean, how can anyone ever be killed in Canadia anymore, since they made everyone register their guns?"

Pistols are banned. Rifles and shotguns are supposed to be registered.

Evidently as in England, self defense is not permitted.

13 posted on 12/17/2004 6:52:56 AM PST by drc43 (We have 4 years left to get it right)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
It will be interesting to read freepers hypotheses for the causes...

If you listen to the Canadian news long enough, they will occasionally do pieces on the violence,
and if you read between the lines, it's a class of cultures, because of open immigration.

So, you got the Tamil Tigers-Canada youth group, the Jamaicans, etc.

And of course, the Mid-East terrorist types.

14 posted on 12/17/2004 6:56:36 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Clive
BAN ALL KNIVES, BASEBALL BATS AND GOLF CLUBS NOW! STOP THE MADNESS!
15 posted on 12/17/2004 6:57:21 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: MysticCrusader

Do not confuse Calgary with Toronto. Calgary is home to over 80,000 American citizens and a great place to live.


16 posted on 12/17/2004 6:59:42 AM PST by albertabound (It's good to beeeeee Albertabound.)
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To: drc43
Re # 13

Self defense can still exist in Canada via pistol...You just need some imagination.

After killing the dangerous intruder, take the body out to the local highway and dump it....Hurry back to complete a good nights rest.

Leave the police out of the equation so you don't spend the rest of your life in a cell.

17 posted on 12/17/2004 7:03:30 AM PST by squirt-gun
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To: Clive

The curse of modern times and PCism run amok.


18 posted on 12/17/2004 7:05:08 AM PST by hershey
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To: Clive
It's OK.

They're not using guns, are they?

19 posted on 12/17/2004 7:05:23 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Clive

20 posted on 12/17/2004 7:11:05 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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