Texas School District Bans Christmas Colors

Maranatha Christian Journal ^ | December 16, 2004

[RayChuang88]

(MCNS)--Attorneys filed a federal civil rights lawsuit today against the Plano Independent School District for a discriminatory policy that censors the Christmas religious expression of students and their parents.

“The policy is a perfect example of politically correct extremism,” said Alliance Defense Fund Senior Counsel Gary McCaleb.

“School officials have gone so far as to prohibit students from wearing red and green at their ‘winter break’ parties because they claim they are Christmas colors. Even the plates and napkins must be white. The district’s policy is ludicrous to even the most common observer.”

[FreedomCalls]

that is why we are free

Really now? Try selling bananas by the pound at the local market. See how free you are.

"Queen obeys Europe and adopts metric rule"
The Queen has been told that the Sandringham Estate must stop selling wood in imperial measures within two weeks or trading standards officers will prosecute. The Sandringham sawmill, on the Queen's Norfolk estate, has been selling oak and teak timber in feet and inches rather than metres, which is a criminal offence under EC metrication laws.
The Daily Telegraph, 20 August 2001, page 5

[little jeremiah]

His research is amazing. People who diss "conspiracy theories" are not always right. And a conspiracy can mean that "birds of a feather flock together".

I don't know, Ed, but to me it seems as though the patient has a high fever - whether the fever will break and the patient will recuperate, or die; I don't know.

Merry Christmas! May the joy of the birth of Jesus Christ be yours.

[FreedomCalls]

during our one period of oppression

One period? Ask the Irish about that. They may differ.

[PiersGaveston]

Really now? Try selling bananas by the pound at the local market. See how free you are.

Lets compare evidence,

U.S. attack on freedom - complete prohibition on any religious activity on public property up to and including red and green clothing at parties.

U.K. attack on freedom - standardised weights and measures law.

I'm no fan on the metric system, but to compare the two incidents is completely fruity-loops.

[dnandell]

Whoe decides he was a facist? Note, I'm not defending him. But who exactly has the power to decide what constitutes hate speech? Parliament? Very dangerous subject to deal with, deciding what is and isn't hate speech.

You might not have state sponsored attacks on religion, however your country sure appears to be losing it's traditional Christian faith rather quickly. Your Church of England appears rather enemic. I won't get into the fact that the Church of England is headed by a monarch.

As if republics have been tried very often throughout history. I believe Rome was at it's greatest when it was a republic. Rome collapsed during the period it was a monarchy/empire. So did China, Germany, Russia, British Empire, etc. It scares me to think your freedoms rest on your monarchy. Your monarchy is pretty powerless. The power in Britian resides in Parliament, no?

Us Americans never "lost" the monarchy. We overthrew it, got rid of it. I don't really think too many people give a hoot about the life and times of your royalty.

It's really too bad Britian decided to become a socialist state after WWII. I think the heritage of the British empire has been a good thing. It's too bad your navy doesn't rule the waves any longer.

Thank God for the U.S. Navy though!

Later

[PiersGaveston]

One period? Ask the Irish about that. They may differ.

I'm English, and the one time (for over 1000 years) that my country (England) has suffered oppression was the period between the murder of King Charles I (30th January, 1649) and the Restoration of King Charles II (29th May, 1660).

In fact one of the oppressive acts undertaken by that tyranny was the prohibition on Christmas; people were arrested for eating plum-pudding. Watch out America, you have no Monarchy to defend your freedom.

[11th_VA]

I expect within the next two years a case about banning anything Christmas will end up in the US Supreme Court to be decided once and for all.

Problem is, there may be no one left on the court ...

[dnandell]

Neither do you.

The British monarchy is powerless. It is used as a symbol only. If parliament wanted to change to a Presidency tomorrow they could.

You have a King or Queen in name only. You will never have another King Henry or Queen Elizabeth with any real power.

Cut the monarchy worship.

Stand up for yourself and your freedom and don't have a "monarch" do it for you.

[FreedomCalls]

I'm English, and the one time (for over 1000 years) that my country (England) has suffered oppression ...

That's because it's your country that was doing the oppressing. You forced Irish peasants to give up their food to England while they were starving. A lot of them died so your ancestors could remain fat and happy. What a jackass!

You signed up just to post this crap?

[PiersGaveston]

who exactly has the power to decide what constitutes hate speech?

12 men good and true. (That is a jury in case you were wondering.)

Also the crime is not hate-speach (which sounds terribly Orwellian, but then Orwell's real name was Blair so perhaps it is apposite), it is incitement to racial hatred the act is the incitement.

Your Church of England appears rather enemic.

That rather depends on which bits you visit. The bits I go to are perfectly sound.

I won't get into the fact that the Church of England is headed by a monarch.

It is not. The Queen is Supreme Governor on Earth of the Church of England, the Church of England is headed by Christ. Also when we're talking about state-sponsered attacks on religion, surely a Christian Monarch would prevent such things, it does here.

I believe Rome was at it's greatest when it was a republic. Rome collapsed during the period it was a monarchy/empire.

Indeed, many republics have shown virility in their early stages, however they descend to decadence. The Roman Empire was never a proper Monarchy at least until it went east to Byzantium (which was over thrown by another Monarchy).

So did China, Germany, Russia, British Empire, etc.

The German Empire ended in 1918, after which there was the disasterous Weimar Republic, and the rise of Hitler. The Russian Empire lost its Monarchy, and became the Soviet Union. The Chinese Monarchy fell, and was replaced by a civil-war between the Nationalists and the Communists. In other words, the Monarchy goes, and shit happens.

The British Empire is a very different matter, the Empire was external and very different to the British homeland (if I may call it such), the process of moving from Empire to Commonwealth was well under way before the great losses of territory in the post-war era (witness Canadian confederation, the formation of Australia &c.). The fall of the external empire was not the fall of the Monarchy, and the country remained undamaged. The Monarchy still survives in several parts of the Commonwealth. Consider at this point Algeria, and the effect that this had on France; the French Republic collapsed because of the loss of part of an external empire; Britain with her firm foundation in the Monarchy suffered no similar fate.

Your monarchy is pretty powerless. The power in Britian resides in Parliament, no?

Well it's al rather complex and controversial. A few points to consider, first the sovereign constitutes a 'house' of Parliament, and can (in theory) veto any legislative proposal. Secondly, the Monarch is the culmination of the executive, and could (in theory) veto any executive action. Now let's imagine that a Prime Minister wished to form a tyranny, the Queen could (and would) simply sack him and call a new election. The powers of the Monarch are massive, but reserved.

Us Americans never "lost" the monarchy. We overthrew it, got rid of it. I don't really think too many people give a hoot about the life and times of your royalty.

So why does barely a day go by without a thread or few appearing discussing the smallest aspect of a Royal's life? Face it, America is obssesed. These new tapes about Diana, Princess of Wales, were not shown in Britain, we've got over her; but in the U.S. it's still massive news.

[PiersGaveston]

The British monarchy is powerless. It is used as a symbol only. If parliament wanted to change to a Presidency tomorrow they could.

You forget, the Monarch is part of Parliament. Parliament does nothing without the express consent of the Queen. A few weeks ago was the end of the Parliamentary session 2003-2004, there was a ceremony called prorogation in which a list was read of the bills passed in the year after each a clerk said 'la reine le vult' (which is Norman French for 'the Queen wills it').

You will never have another King Henry or Queen Elizabeth with any real power.

Never say never. Anyway, what about the difference between power and authority? As long as government is fine, the Monarch does not have to bother herself too much with it, if we were threatened she could take incredibly action to sort things out.

Cut the monarchy worship.

This is going to sound like a Catholic-Protestant debate in the religion forum, but any way. We do not worship the Monarchy (or even the Monarch), but we respect the good work which is does for the country.

Stand up for yourself and your freedom and don't have a "monarch" do it for you.

Why. I'm a lazy bugger, and if somebody else will look after my freedom why should I bother?

[longtermmemmory]

this is what happens whet the left circles the wagons and attack.

[FreedomCalls]

Talk about thread hijacking....Sheeesh.

[PiersGaveston]

That's because it's your country that was doing the oppressing. You forced Irish peasants to give up their food to England while they were starving. A lot of them died so your ancestors could remain fat and happy. What a jackass!

My goodness with views like that you should refound the 'Know Nothing Party'. Learn some real history, rather than the Sinn-Fein/I.R.A. kill lots of people we don't like version of history.

You signed up just to post this crap?

No, I signed up for interesting discussion, but this is almost as much fun, so I'll enjoy this for now.

[oyez]

Why do we put up with this crap?

[FreedomCalls]

Denying it doesn't change history.

[PiersGaveston]

Talk about thread hijacking.

If you want me to I will happily talk about thread hijacking.

Thread hijacking is where a person, or small group, enter a discussion of one topic, and force it onto another to suit his/her/their own agenda. A good example might be where a thread is posted about the oppression of religion which currently takes place in the United States, this discussion rationally would take in consideration of other countries and their relatively benign attitude to public displays of religion (for example good old blighty, mother of all free nations). The hijack could very easily then occur with a rampant anti-British, or anti-Monarchy type wading in and attacking the very basis of that prevailing benign view of religion (the British Monarchy).

Was that enough about thread hijacking. I've got to dash, my supper is ready, I may be able to pick this up later.

God Save the Queen, and love live the trans-Atlantic alliance.

[PiersGaveston]

Denying it doesn't change history.

Distorting history to agree with Marxist terrorists doesn't change it either.

[headsonpikes]

God Save The Queen!

Consider that a blind raise.

;^)