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Mark Steyn; In praise of ‘Jesusland’
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 12/18/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/16/2004 6:28:43 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: bondserv
You are well aware -- because I have been faithful to enlighten you in the past -- that the religious and intellectual oppression came from a corrupt, power hungry Roman Religious imperialism that had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His teachings.

You are so Dark Ages, guy!

141 posted on 12/19/2004 7:49:38 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: VadeRetro
You are so Dark Ages, guy!

I will admit the Medieval Fantasy genre is my favorite read. (c;

142 posted on 12/19/2004 8:11:58 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: VadeRetro

You have not made it clear what needs further explaining.
clear enough, if you read before you rant.

you have in your role of shill ..
shill ? nope. you?

wasted a fair amount of oxygen...
get a life. there's no need to apologize for taking up a tiny bit of your precious time.

loons and buffoons...
phew, more spew.

You're not the first to try to slip into the discussion...
discussion? try rant.

I suppose it'll be my fault for being so mean ....
mean?! vade-the-impaler?

when in a month of so you are posting that there are no transional forms...
prediction? don't hold your breath. though that might help with your hyperventilation problem.

I guess I'll have to live with that, mistah science.
it's mista to you.

Vade Retro!
cute.


143 posted on 12/20/2004 1:49:22 PM PST by mista science (Gee Whillikers)
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To: Pokey78; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ...
Thanks for the ping, Pokey (and Merry Christmas to you and yours)

Mark Steyn MEGA PING!!


144 posted on 12/21/2004 2:48:52 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

A worthy read and Merry Christmas and all the blessings of the season to you.


145 posted on 12/21/2004 2:55:32 AM PST by Peach
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To: Pokey78
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Great Post JH2!!!
Sharper Minds Daily
146 posted on 12/21/2004 3:12:23 AM PST by KMC1
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To: sauropod

read later


147 posted on 12/21/2004 5:17:56 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Pokey78

the other day I found myself motoring along behind some Vermont feminist whose faded ‘I’m Pro-Choice and I Vote’ bumper sticker was now accompanied by another one demanding grumpily, ‘Instead Of Being Born Again, Why Not Grow Up?’


If "growing up" means thinking killing babies because they are inconvenient is a good thing, then I do believe I'll pass.


148 posted on 12/21/2004 6:05:07 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: Pokey78

BTTT


149 posted on 12/21/2004 6:09:20 AM PST by b4its2late (Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.)
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To: JohnHuang2

The Guardian’s Timothy Garton Ash, just back from a tour of America’s blue states, says that they’re crying out for Europe’s help:

Thank you for the offer Timmy but I think we'll pass. But if we ever feel the need for high unemployment, 90% tax rates, no moral compass, or the desire to bow down before the French we'll be sure to get in touch with you.


150 posted on 12/21/2004 6:09:54 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: VadeRetro

Being one of those creationist "knuckel-draggers" myself, (Who also understands that a day to God may be 10 or 100 million years to man), your comments are highly inflammatory. However, your comments may prove one thing right about Darwin's theory and that deals with the Survival of the Fittest. For I am sure that there are plenty of "Knuckle-draggers" out there who would Stereotypically beat the shit out of the likes of you.


151 posted on 12/21/2004 6:20:17 AM PST by ohioman
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To: JohnHuang2
‘What is man, that thou art mindful of him...? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou hast made him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea.’

Now you can say that’s a lot of Judaeo-Christian hooey. But the Psalmist, regardless of whether he got it from God or winged it off the top of his head, has characterised the reality of our existence better than the environmentalists and scientists. The Eighth Psalm describes the central fact of our world — our dominion over the sheep and oxen, yea, and all the party animals. It was a lot less plausible when it was written, when man’s domain stretched barely to the horizon, when ravenous beasts lurked in the undergrowth, when the oceans were uncharted and the maps dribbled away with the words ‘Here be dragons...’. But, over the millennia, the Eighth Psalm has held up, which is more than you can say for the average 1970s bestseller predicting the oil would run out by 1998 and the Maldives would be obliterated by global warming.

It’s easy, in an otherwise wholly secular West, to mock the religiosity of Jesusland. But if eternal salvation remains unproved, the suspension of disbelief required of Eutopian secularists grows daily. If you were one of those ‘redneck Christian fundamentalists’ the world’s media are always warning about, you might think the Continent’s in for what looks awfully like the Four Horsemen of the Euro-Apocalypse: Famine — the end of the lavishly funded statist good times; Death — the self-extinction of European races too selfish to breed; War — the decline into bloody civil unrest that these economic and demographic factors will bring; and Conquest — the recolonisation of Europe by Islam.

But it goes without saying that Europeans are far too rational and enlightened to believe in such outmoded notions as apocalyptic equestrians. If there is ‘choice on earth’, I’ll bet on Jesusland. Happy holidays.

Everything Steyn writes is a masterpiece. Thanks for the ping.

152 posted on 12/21/2004 6:22:43 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: VadeRetro

"Free speech means freedom to be not only wrong but loudly wrong...AS IN ...Creationists are an embarrassment to conservatism precisely because they are evidence that the knuckle-draggin' gap-toothed slope-browed mean and dumb stereotypes are true...."
HMMM! VERRY INTRRESTING!


153 posted on 12/21/2004 6:49:03 AM PST by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: ohioman
I am sure that there are plenty of "Knuckle-draggers" out there who would Stereotypically beat the shit out of the likes of you.

It's truly awesome how The Real Science works. Can't imagine why people don't want this in the classroom. </sarcasm>

154 posted on 12/21/2004 8:57:48 AM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: Pokey78

Whoa.....first time I've read something by this guy. Very good!!!


155 posted on 12/21/2004 9:14:21 AM PST by Hoboto
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To: JohnHuang2

Thanks for the ping!


156 posted on 12/21/2004 9:58:20 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: JohnHuang2; Pokey78
Good article, as usual.

Merry Christmas to you both.

157 posted on 12/21/2004 2:01:28 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: valkyrieanne

Well, we know that the Jews did occasionally stone people during Roman rule. In the Book of Acts, Stephen was stoned.


158 posted on 12/21/2004 8:15:58 PM PST by Rocky
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To: VadeRetro

Summary of your answer: "I don't know."


159 posted on 12/22/2004 4:32:35 AM PST by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
Summary of your answer: "I don't know."

"42" would have been better, if that's the number.

160 posted on 12/22/2004 6:13:20 AM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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