Where children have no voice: the "right" of adoption by homosexual partners

Tradition,Family,Property ^ | December 2004 | Luiz Sergio Solimeo

[Jeff Head]

Perverted and sick.

[lara]

And it's not the first time a baby doesn't have a choice.

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Very detailed summary of homosexual adopting/parenting. Why studies that say it's just as good as a married mother and father are flawed. This is a biggie, and there are some revealing quotes from homosexuals about their desire for children.

The desire for children is very natural, but the desire to "enjoy" having them is extremely selfish. Their legitimate needs come before any prospective "parent's" selfish personal desires.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

[sinanju]

I've had a look at some of the books on the subject, all are partisan as hell and even my non-scientific mind immediately picked up on the fact that the cases being cited were obviously screened beforehand, i.e. no objective statistics about gay couples w/children who came a cropper. No, only the happy-happy, joy-joy stories. And even then, there were none involving children who had grown to adulthood.

[SweetCaroline]

BTTT

[lainde]

bump for reference.

[timydnuc]

So, two homosexuals adopt a little boy and years later he's sexually abused by his "mommy" or his "daddy" and we, society, is supposed to be shocked? We, as a society, should be ashamed for putting this kid in that environment in the first place.

Perverts don't deserve the right to pervert other people. If they are so selfish that all they think about is their perversions they should NEVER have the opportunity to spoil another life. No adoptions for the gay/lesbian/transsexual/bisexual/trans gendered crowd. They chose their life, don't be malignant and spread it to innocent children.

[Hetty_Fauxvert]

Her parting thought: 'I cannot understand or relate to men because I am so immersed in gay culture and unfamiliar with what it is to have a healthy straight relationship.'"

This is exactly what I worry about with gays raising kids. A huge amount of what kids learn about the world comes from mirroring the behavior of their parents. If parents are alcoholics, kids are much more likely to be alcoholics. If they are smokers, kids are more likely to be smokers. Now, there is one difference: I do believe that a majority of people who identify as homosexual were born that way, and trying to be anything else would be difficult in the extreme for them. (I think there is also another group that could go either way, and for various reasons, choose to identify as homosexual. But perhaps that's a topic for another day.) BUT -- kids mirror what they see in the home. And if they see two mommies or two daddies, that is going to be "normal" for them, no matter how much the mommies or the daddies tell them that their family is different. They are going to see that as normality, and if they themselves don't fit into that mold, they're going to feel that they are disappointing the parents. (Just like homosexuals so often worry they are disappointing their straight parents.) I'm not a psychologist, but it is just so apparent that what kids grow up with is what they see as normal, even if they learn better later on. I myself grew up in a really warped and abusive family (not homosexuality -- other stuff), and even though I've done the therapy thing and observed other "normal" families a lot since then, I still fall right back into those patterns unless I really watch out and force myself not to. What you see is what you learn is normal!

I don't know what the answer is here. I am not at all calling homosexual parents "perverts," because research has shown for a long time that most pedophiles are heterosexual. I believe homosexuals when they say they just want to be parents, and I feel for them.

But what is in the best interests of children? Unfortunately, we will not know the answer to this until about 20 years from now, when large numbers of children who have been in this situation grow up and start their own families. I just hope they are not as damaged as I fear some of them may be.

[DirtyHarryY2K]

Homosexuals cannot see that they are denying the child it's right to a normal childhood with both a mother AND a father.

They've reduced the child's right to have what he/she needs to be emotionally complete because they're blinded with selfishness. Your sexual preference should not outweigh the rights of a child to have a complete normal family environment. Think of the child and what would be best for child!

Damn! people are selfish!

I feel the same way for children that have their lives ripped apart because one parent or the other selfishly put their own wants needs desires before those of their children and get a divorce for selfish reasons! Should be a capital crime to spiritually and emotionally torture a child like that. /rant.

[DirtyHarryY2K]

Great article! Thanks for posting.

[Ready4Freddy]

And they typically have a choice in a hetero couple adoption? Just wondering......

Where children have no voice...

[DBeers]

...because research has shown for a long time that most pedophiles are heterosexual

You may want to reconsider the 'research' you cite. The 'most' that you cite is similar to the flawed 'most' money argument cited in the tax cut debate e.g. the rich get more than the poor -probabilities don't work that way. At best, using the model you cite which really compares homo to hetero and does not identify pedophilia rate within each group -it could be said that most humans are heterosexual.

The percentage of the homosexual population that are pedophiles is greater than the percentage of the heterosexual population that are pedophiles. A child is more likely to come into contact with a pedophile if coming into contact with a homosexual.

[odoso]

Why not just physically beat and emotionally torture children until they're comatose or dead!

Preferable to adoption by SICK, VILE, INSIDIOUSLY PERVERTED PSYCHOPATHIC PEDAPHILES... As for the rest of you mentally ill freaks, simply drop "pedophile" - your identity remains known to all of us.

[kaylar]

I have a book called Out of Control by Paul Thibedeaux (IIRC) . It's about the CPS/child welfare industry .The book cites stats that claim while 2.5-5% of the population is exclusively or primarily homosexual, about 30% of children raised by same-sex couples wind up homosexual themselves.(Sorry I can't give an exact quote or page number ; I just moved and most of my books are packed).

[EdReform]

BTTT

What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda

Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)

Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

[Teacher317]

A win-win for the nanny state. The abused children need counseling and Child Protective Services, and the public will quickly give the green light for the state to start intruding further into the child-rearing of all (since they can't single out gays in the statutes).

[little jeremiah]

If you haven't yet, please check out some of EdReform's links that are posted above. A mine of information about the causes, effects and dangers of homosexuality, and also about the fact that there is absolute no proof that homosexuality is inborn (despite the best efforts of "gay" researchers). Add to that the tens of thousands of former homosexuals - there is hope for people caught in the "gay" life.

[Teacher317]

because research has shown for a long time that most pedophiles are heterosexual

Any rational review of those "studies" quickly show them to be bogus. How can a male adult's molestation of a male child not be considered a homosexual act? If the adult male is committing same-sex molestations, how can he be considered heterosexual, and not homosexual or at least bi-sexual? The "professionals" doing those studies simply defined the terms in the most PC way possible, to get the results that they wanted. That's not a scientific study, that's a promotional stunt, pushing a slanted view. Apparently it has worked well, since so many others also "understand" it they way that you do.

[OldBlondBabe]

You may want to reconsider the 'research' you cite.....

Thanks for these remarks. Seems to me I recently read an article (it was about the boy Dirksing (sp) who was sexually brutalized by two homosexual men)that stated that while homosexuals comprise only 1 to 2% of the population, they are responsible for about 30% of the sexual crimes committed against children.