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To: ddtorque
Interesting article.

Entirely wrong about Usama's plan being to drain our wealth through defense spending and war. That's as self defeating a tactic as trying to choke a vampire by letting him drink your blood.

Think about it. We didn't respond to Pearl Harbor by trying to get Japan to spend themselves to death.

As far as his points on the importance of oil, he's much closer to the mark. Oil is the indirect power that fuels our enemies. Without it, Arab militants would be no more a global threat than the Hutus or the Indonesians. Oil artificially magnifies the power and influence of these nations, and indirectly, the more fanatical people in them. The day the oil runs out will be the day the Arab world descends into Sub-Saharan obscurity.

2 posted on 12/15/2004 7:48:42 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Steel Wolf
The day the oil runs out will be the day the Arab world descends into Sub-Saharan obscurity.

Better still to be building a free Arab middle class, a middle class that leaders will listen to. If given the choice between spending their oil money on some scheme to topple the US, or spend it on themselves to improve their own lives, a free people will spend it on themselves. Only a dictator has the power to spend oil money any way he wants.

8 posted on 12/15/2004 8:07:23 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Steel Wolf
Entirely wrong about Usama's plan being to drain our wealth through defense spending and war. That's as self defeating a tactic as trying to choke a vampire by letting him drink your blood.

Think about it. We didn't respond to Pearl Harbor by trying to get Japan to spend themselves to death.

There is a big difference between countries fighting between each other,as opposed to fighting a religious war.

Countries have recognized leaders who can surrender and end the war.

In this religious war we are in, the motivation of the terrorists is doing what God wants done even at the expense of their lives, and not what a country wants done.

Even if Osama surrendered, the Muslim terrorists answer to a higher authority and would continue to fight.

God trumps everything country, family and self. And these people obviously are believers in God (Allah). The point isn't who or what you believe about supernatural beings, it is what they believe, and they are wiling to act on it without regards to their own well being. - tom

11 posted on 12/15/2004 8:16:50 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Steel Wolf
Remember it was U.S.S.R. that was going to hang us and sell us the rope to do it with.

No one has listened to me, a high school graduate, 81 years of age, what do I know?

I have tried to tell people we didn't fund the fall of
U.S.S.R. but we are certainly some of the terrorist attacks because some of the monies we pay to these Arab nations wind up funding the terrorists.

Why should they reduce the price of oil? They have us over a barrel. We not only buy their oil but now we buy refined oil from them..China is beginning to build refineries. We haven't built a new refinery in about 30 years. IT WILL HURT THE ENVIORMENT! We can't drill off the coast, it will ruin the scenery or pollute the beaches. Clinton, by executive privilege declared our clean coal areas a National Monument, not a National Park.

A new president can't, by executive over turn this. From what I understand only Congress can do that. As you may know the only other place that there is this type of coal is in Indonesia and his friend [ I think his name is Reahdi, may not be spelled right]controls this.

Then too there is China who wants to be the only super power in the world and we are funding that. Just check the nation that we have the largest trade deficit with.

I think it is time to rethink our priorities.

I pray I am wrong.

Frannie
12 posted on 12/15/2004 8:23:03 PM PST by frannie (I REPEAT --THE TRUTH WILL SET US ALL FREE--)
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To: Steel Wolf
Well, it is his only possible strategy. He can't possibly believe that he can beat the most advanced army in the world militarily.

There are always two ways to win a war: a) you beat the enemy or b) you make the price for the enemy's victory too high, so that he has to give up.

Given his limited resources (limited compared to the US military) his only option is b)
20 posted on 12/16/2004 3:02:37 AM PST by wu_trax
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