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Zell Miller Has Lots On His Mind (this is important)
US Senate ^ | 12/15/04 | Zell Miller

Posted on 12/15/2004 4:30:49 PM PST by eleni121

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senator Zell Miller (D-GA) today delivered the following statement on the floor of the United States Senate addressing several social issues facing the country:

"The Old Testament prophet Amos was a sheep herder who lived back in the Judean hills, away from the larger cities of Bethlehem and Jerusalem. Compared to the intellectual urbanites like Isaiah and Jeremiah, he was just an unsophisticated country hick.

"But Amos had a unique grasp of political and social issues and his poetic literary skill was among the best of all the prophets. That familiar quote of Martin Luther King, Jr. about 'Justice will rush down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream' are Amos's words.

"Amos was the first to propose the concept of a universal God and not just some tribal deity. He also wrote that God demanded moral purity, not rituals and sacrifices. This blunt speaking moral conscience of his time warns in Chapter 8, verse 11 of The Book of Amos, as if he were speaking to us today:

That 'the days will come, sayeth the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land. Not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the word of the Lord.

'And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east. They shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.'

'A famine in the land'. Has anyone more accurately described the situation we face in America today? 'A famine of hearing the words of the Lord.'

"But some will say, Amos was just an Old Testament prophet - a minor one at that - who lived 700 years before Christ. That is true, so how about one of the most influential historians of modern times?

"Arnold Toynbee who wrote the acclaimed 12 volume A Study of History, once declared, 'Of the 22 civilizations that have appeared in history, 19 of them collapsed when they reached the moral state America is in today.'

"Toynbee died in 1975, before seeing the worst that was yet to come. Yes, Arnold Toynbee saw the famine. The 'famine of hearing the words of the Lord.' Whether it is removing a display of the Ten Commandments from a Courthouse or the Nativity Scene from a city square. Whether it is eliminating prayer in schools or eliminating 'under God' in the Pledge of Allegiance. Whether it is making a mockery of the sacred institution of marriage between a man and woman or, yes, telecasting around the world made-in-the-USA filth masquerading as entertainment.

"The Culture of Far Left America was displayed in a startling way during the Super Bowl's now infamous half-time show. A show brought to us courtesy of Value-Les Moonves and the pagan temple of Viacom-Babylon.

"I asked the question yesterday, how many of you have ever run over a skunk with your car? I have many times and I can tell you, the stink stays around for a long time. You can take the car through a car wash and it's still there. So the scent of this event will long linger in the nostrils of America.

"I'm not talking just about an exposed mammary gland with a pull-tab attached to it. Really no one should have been too surprised at that. Wouldn't one expect a bumping, humping, trashy routine entitled 'I'm going to get you naked' to end that way.

"Does any responsible adult ever listen to the words of this rap-crap? I'd quote you some of it, but the Sergeant of Arms would throw me out of here, as well he should. And then there was that prancing, dancing, strutting, rutting guy evidently suffering from jock itch because he kept yelling and grabbing his crotch. But then, maybe there's a crotch grabbing culture I've unaware of.

"But as bad as all this was, the thing that yanked my chain the hardest was seeing that ignoramus with his pointed head stuck up through a hole he had cut in the flag of the United States of America, screaming about having 'a bottle of scotch and watching lots of crotch.' Think about that.

"This is the same flag that we pledge allegiance to. This is the flag that is draped over coffins of dead young uniformed warriors killed while protecting Kid Crock's bony butt. He should be tarred and feathered, and ridden out of this country on a rail. Talk about a good reality show, there's one for you.

"The desire and will of this Congress to meaningfully do anything about any of these so-called social issues is non existent and embarrassingly disgraceful. The American people are waiting and growing impatient with us. They want something done.

"I am pleased to be a co-sponsor of S.J. Res. 26 along with Senator Allard and others, proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relating to marriage. And S.1558, the Liberties Restoration Act, which declares religious liberty rights in several ways, including the Pledge of Allegiance and the display of the Ten Commandments. And today I join Senator Shelby and others with the Constitution Restoration Act of 2004 that limits the jurisdiction of federal courts in certain ways.

"In doing so, I stand shoulder to shoulder not only with my Senate co-sponsors and Chief Justice Roy Moore of Alabama but, more importantly, with our Founding Fathers in the conception of religious liberty and the terribly wrong direction our modern judiciary has taken us in.

"Everyone today seems to think that the U.S. Constitution expressly provides for separation of church and state. Ask any ten people if that's not so. And I'll bet you most of them will say 'Well, sure.' And some will point out, 'it's in the First Amendment.'

"Wrong! Read it! It says, 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.' Where is the word 'separate'? Where are the words 'church' or 'state.'

"They are not there. Never have been. Never intended to be. Read the Congressional Records during that four-month period in 1789 when the amendment was being framed in Congress. Clearly their intent was to prohibit a single denomination in exclusion of all others, whether it was Anglican or Catholic or some other.

"I highly recommend a great book entitled Original Intent by David Barton. It really gets into how the actual members of Congress, who drafted the First Amendment, expected basic Biblical principles and values to be present throughout public life and society, not separate from it.

"It was Alexander Hamilton who pointed out that 'judges should be bound down by strict rules and precedents, which serve to define and point out their duty.' Bound down! That is exactly what is needed to be done. There was not a single precedent cited when school prayer was struck down in 1962.

"These judges who legislate instead of adjudicate, do it without being responsible to one single solitary voter for their actions. Among the signers of the Declaration of Independence was a brilliant young physician from Pennsylvania named Benjamin Rush.

"When Rush was elected to that First Continental Congress, his close friend Benjamin Franklin told him 'We need you. . . we have a great task before us, assigned to us by Providence.' Today, 228 years later there is still a great task before us assigned to us by Providence. Our Founding Fathers did not shirk their duty and we can do no less.

"By the way, Benjamin Rush was once asked a question that has long interested this Senator from Georgia in particular. Dr. Rush was asked, are you a democrat or an aristocrat? And the good doctor answered, 'I am neither '. 'I am a Christocrat. I believe He, alone, who created and redeemed man is qualified to govern him.' That reply of Benjamin Rush is just as true today in the year of our Lord 2004 as it was in the year of our Lord 1776.

"So, if I am asked why - with all the pressing problems this nation faces today - why am I pushing these social issues and taking the Senate's valuable time? I will answer: Because, it is of the highest importance. Yes, there's a deficit to be concerned about in this country, a deficit of decency.

"So, as the sand empties through my hourglass at warp speed - and with my time running out in this Senate and on this earth, I feel compelled to speak out. For I truly believe that at times like this, silence is not golden. It is yellow."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanway; christocrat; democrat; hero; honor; justice; truth; zellmiller
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To: eleni121; Pahuanui

Define: "beliefs of the founding fathers."


121 posted on 12/15/2004 6:36:30 PM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

LOL


122 posted on 12/15/2004 6:38:35 PM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: derheimwill

Beliefs of the founding fathers: Practicing Christians in private and public.

http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/detail.php?ResourceID=29


123 posted on 12/15/2004 6:40:21 PM PST by eleni121 (Best AG ever: John Ashcroft)
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To: the invisib1e hand

This man may be a modern day prophet.


124 posted on 12/15/2004 6:50:51 PM PST by bannerman
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To: ApesForEvolution; All

"This doesn't, to me, square with the honorable Sen. Miller's views on abortion...I wonder why he still holds to the death culture?"


As detailed in his recent book, "A National Party No More", Senator Miller now supports the PRO-LIFE position relative to abortion!!!!


125 posted on 12/15/2004 6:53:17 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: Echo Talon

This is what Kid Rock spewed while desecrating the American Flag:

"Cowboy"

Cowboy...Cowboy

Well I'm packing up my game and I'm a head out west
Where real women come equipped with scripts and fake breasts
Find a nest in the hills chill like Flynt
Buy an old drop top find a spot to pimp
And I'm a Kid Rock it up and down your block
With a bottle of scotch and watch lots of crotch
Buy yacht with a flag sayin' chillin the most
Then rock that b***h up and down the coast
Give a toast to the sun, drink with the stars
Get thrown in the mix and tossed out of bars
Then to Tijuana... I wanna roam
Find Motown and tell them fools to come back home
Start an escort service, for all the right reasons
And set up shop at the top of four seasons
Kid Rock and I'm the real mccoy
And I'm headin' out west sucker...because I wanna be a

Cowboy baby
With the top let back and the sunshine shining
Cowboy baby
West coast chillin with the Boone's Wine
I wanna be a Cowboy baby
Ridin at night cause I sleep all day
Cowboy baby
I can smell a pig from a mile away

I bet you'll hear my whistle blowin when my train rolls in
It goes (whistle) like dust in the wind
Stoned pimp, stoned freak, stoned out of my mind
I once was lost, but now I'm just blind
Palm trees and weeds, scabbed knees and rice
Get a map to the stars, find Heidi Fleiss
And if the price is right I'm gonna make my bid boy
And let Cali-for-ny-aye know why they call me

Cowboy baby
With the top let back and the sunshine shining
Cowboy baby
West coast chillin with the Boone's Wine
I wanna be a Cowboy baby
Ridin at night cause I sleep all day
Cowboy baby
I can smell a pig from a mile away

Yeah...Kid Rock...you can call me Tex
Rollin sunset woman with a bottle of Becks
Seen a slimmy in a vette, rolled down my glass
And said, Yeah this d**k fits right in your a**
No kiddin, gun slingin, spurs hittin the floor
Call me Hoss, I'm the Boss, with the sauce in the horse
No remorse for the sheriff, in his eye I ain't right
I'm gonna paint his town red, and paint his wife white HUH
Cause chaos, rock like Amadeus
Find West Coast p***y for my Detroit players
Mack like mayors, ball like Lakers
They told us to leave, but bet they can't make us
Why they wanna pick on me...lock me up and snort away my key
I ain't no G, I'm just a regular failure
I ain't straight outta Compton I'm straight out the trailer
Cuss like a sailor...drink like a Mick
My only words of wisdom are just, Radio Edit
I'm flickin my Bic up and down that coast and
Keep on truckin until it falls into motion

Cowboy
With the top let back and the sunshine shining
Cowboy
Spend all my time at Hollywood and Vine
Cowboy
Ridin at night cause I sleep all day
Cowboy
I can smell a pig from a mile away
Cowboy
With the top let back and the sunshine shining
Cowboy
With the top let back and the sunshine shining
Cowboy
Hollywood and Vine

126 posted on 12/15/2004 6:53:20 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: DrDeb

RIGHT ON! I'll buy the book!!! lol


127 posted on 12/15/2004 6:54:06 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: eleni121

Good ol Zell Miller. He, is a true American. Not one of these pansy @ss democrats who say Happy Holidays! I'm betting he would say Merry Christmas! So, I would like to say this. "Merry Christmas!"


128 posted on 12/15/2004 6:55:39 PM PST by fairykerry (Democrats= AMERICA'S DESTRUCTION.)
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To: derheimwill; deaconjim; Pahuanui; All

Patrick Henry wrote this in 1776:

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religious, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here."

Founding fathers were all pretty much alike on this: All Christians and quite clear about their beliefs and how beliefs are to be implemented in public life.


129 posted on 12/15/2004 6:58:26 PM PST by eleni121 (Best AG ever: John Ashcroft)
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To: eleni121

A+ Zell. Why is he a Dem?


130 posted on 12/15/2004 6:58:48 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: fairykerry

Merry Christmas to all! And a great big thanks to all those like Mr Miller whose only fear is the mighty Creator.


131 posted on 12/15/2004 7:00:16 PM PST by eleni121 (Best AG ever: John Ashcroft)
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To: eleni121
It's not about "seeing" It's about reading up on the primary source documents.

Indeed, and I can see that you are mercifully unlettered in logic and rhetoric. I see no evidence that he has done so, and this is in response to someone who maintained that he, in fact, has done so. It is not up to me to prove that person's case.

Since only 5 percent of high schools graduates know how to examine primary source documentation, I must sadly assume you are part of the other 95%.

Sorry, but it seems that your assumption once again has made an ass of you.

Even old Tom Paine (the most deist of them) said that sciences should not be taught without the wisdom of God in the classroom.

That is irrelevant to the point I was making, fool.

You must be referring to the founding fathers of the Soviet Union...clarify please.

No, I'm referring, once again, despite your transparent smoke screen, to the fact that I see no evidence whatsoever that Miller has either familiarized himself with the documents of the founding fathers nor bothered to exempify them in any meaningful manner. Nor have you, or anyone else, offered anything to the contrary to alter my opinion.

Perhaps you should consult those voices in your head for advice about how to contruct a logical argument.

132 posted on 12/15/2004 7:01:52 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Aquinasfan

"Why is he a Dem?"

I have often wondered that myself. For what it's worth, he thinks strategically. As a Dem he gets more media exposure for standing up against the Liberals.

What do you think?


133 posted on 12/15/2004 7:02:50 PM PST by eleni121 (Best AG ever: John Ashcroft)
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To: derheimwill
Define: "beliefs of the founding fathers."

Amonst others, strict belief in the Constitution and it's methodology for enacting and enforcing gov't force and powers.

134 posted on 12/15/2004 7:03:02 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: bannerman
This man may be a modern day prophet.

Moore, Keyes, and now Miller.

135 posted on 12/15/2004 7:05:14 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: eleni121
Founding fathers were all pretty much alike on this: All Christians and quite clear about their beliefs and how beliefs are to be implemented in public life.

A product of the publik skool system, I see.

Your above statement is utterly irrelevant to the point I was making.

136 posted on 12/15/2004 7:05:20 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Pahuanui

My my aren't we angry...when the facts smack you in the face, you need to contemplate, not reject and attack.

So, my advice to you is to consider the facts and enter into a cycle of change.


137 posted on 12/15/2004 7:07:08 PM PST by eleni121 (Best AG ever: John Ashcroft)
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To: Pahuanui
Amonst others, strict belief in the Constitution and it's methodology for enacting and enforcing gov't force and powers.

And what did they believe in before that? The more specific we are the better. That way, we can disagree without namecalling.

138 posted on 12/15/2004 7:07:09 PM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: Pahuanui
Military Service: United States Marine Corps, 1953-56 (Parris Island, SC, Great Lakes, IL, and Camp Lejeune, NC); Sergeant; Rifle Expert

1959-64: Professor of political science and history, University of Georgia, Young Harris College

1959-60: Mayor, Young Harris, GA

1961-64: State Senator, GA, two terms

1975-1991: Lieutenant Governor, GA, four terms

1991-1999: Governor, GA, two terms

1999-2000: Taught history/political science at Emory University, University of Georgia, Young Harris College; served on various corporate boards

July 2000: Appointed to U.S. Senate after the death of Senator Paul Coverdell, R-GA

November 2000: Won a special election with 58 percent of the vote against six candidates for the right to serve the remaining four years of Senator Coverdell's term

Zell Miller Authored 5 Books
A National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat, 2003, Stroud and Hall Publishers

Corps Values: Everything You Need to Know I Learned in the Marines, 1997, Long Street Press, Bantam

They Heard Georgia Singing, 1985, (updated version published 1996), Mercer University Press

Great Georgians, 1983, Advocate Press

The Mountains Within Me, 1975, Cherokee Pub. Co.

I guess you have accomplished more... /sarcasm off

139 posted on 12/15/2004 7:07:57 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: eleni121
What do you think?

I'm guessing that he's an old school Dem, like Ray Flynn, who's holding out hope that the party will come around. Who knows. Maybe it will if they take a few more electoral beatings.

The one thing that doesn't compute is the fact that he was pro-abortion at one time. I can't figure that out.

140 posted on 12/15/2004 7:10:32 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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