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'Ignore Global Warming,' Says Former Greenpeace Member
CNSNews ^ | 12/15/2004

Posted on 12/15/2004 8:53:10 AM PST by worldclass

A former member of Greenpeace who became disillusioned with what he saw as bad eco-science urged a United Nations climate change conference to "save the world" by ignoring global warming.

"Climate change is a huge thing, but there is very little that we can do about it," Bjorn Lomborg told CNSNews.com following a speech in Buenos Aires on Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bjornlomberg; bjornlomborg; climatechange; environment; environmentalist; globalwarming; greenpeace; skeptical; water
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1 posted on 12/15/2004 8:53:14 AM PST by worldclass
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To: worldclass
"Climate change is a huge thing, but there is very little that we can do about it." Amen! No one would deny that temperatures go up and down through the millenia. But only fools think that piddly little humans can possibly have an effect on it...
2 posted on 12/15/2004 8:56:06 AM PST by AndyStevenson
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To: worldclass

Wow. A Left-wing heretic. Hope they don't burn him at the stake for blasphemy.


3 posted on 12/15/2004 8:56:41 AM PST by PeterFinn (The NAACP can have a recount of the Ohio vote if I can have a recount of the Million Man March.)
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To: worldclass

Oh so everyone won't be killed. I am deeply sad. /sarcasm


4 posted on 12/15/2004 8:57:47 AM PST by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think (When they are off I am single minded))
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To: PeterFinn

Wouldn't burning a heretic ADD to global warming? :-)


5 posted on 12/15/2004 8:58:00 AM PST by worldclass
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To: worldclass

Fine and dandy, but this guy sounds kooky...

"By the U.N.'s own scenarios, everyone [in poor nations] will be at least as rich as we are today in the developed world in 2100...Imagine if you were a rich Chinese or a rich Rwandan or a rich Bolivian in 2100..."


6 posted on 12/15/2004 8:59:59 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: worldclass
Wouldn't burning a heretic ADD to global warming? No, because of the aggregate hot air prevented. Liberals, even converted ones, are full of hot air.
7 posted on 12/15/2004 9:01:45 AM PST by AndyStevenson
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To: Uncledave

The Red Chinese signed Kyoto but announced they're not going to cut a damned thing.


8 posted on 12/15/2004 9:01:51 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Uncledave

No, Bjorn Lomberg is not kooky. He is a well-respected scientist who has dared to put good science ahead of Politically Correct Science. He is of course hated by the Greenies -- the Truth is often hard for them to swallow. But how refreshing.


9 posted on 12/15/2004 9:02:33 AM PST by bboop
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To: Uncledave

Yeah...ex-Greenpeace but definitely not conservative. Still, it's a start.


10 posted on 12/15/2004 9:02:42 AM PST by worldclass
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To: worldclass

"Wouldn't burning a heretic ADD to global warming? :-)"

No, but since it Christmas the thought of Greenies roasting on an open fire is, indeed, heartwarming.


11 posted on 12/15/2004 9:15:31 AM PST by PeterFinn (The NAACP can have a recount of the Ohio vote if I can have a recount of the Million Man March.)
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To: worldclass

I'm a former liberal Dem, pro-nuclear freeze, pro-socialist, and etc. and now I'm about as conservative as one can get after having my eyes opened by Ronald Reagan's successes.

A reformed liberal is the best conservative because we know EXACTLY how those twerps (Dems) think. Frankly, it's people like me who have an understanding of just how scary the liberals can be.

If this guy is coming out against Global Whining then he'll be in our column within the year. Bet on it.


12 posted on 12/15/2004 9:19:22 AM PST by PeterFinn (The NAACP can have a recount of the Ohio vote if I can have a recount of the Million Man March.)
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To: PeterFinn
A reformed liberal is the best conservative because we know EXACTLY how those twerps (Dems) think

You sound like me, a former dem/liberal myself. And like David Horowitz, we are the ones who REALLY get to the liberals, because we know how they think, and we can "talk" like them, we are steeped in their jargon, and know how to use it against them. For example, I argue for the conservative side with secular, humanist principles. I don't invoke God or even Country, and that leaves them with no strawmen to beat up on.

I dont know about global warming. Quite frankly, I am sceptical about the excessive scepticism about it here on FR. However I am sure there is too much hysteria about it in the media and environmentalist circles. I think this guys makes a good point, that even IF it is occuring because of man and CO2, there is little we can effectively do about it, and we are better off spending resources on things that we CAN affect.

13 posted on 12/15/2004 9:29:21 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Uncledave
Fine and dandy, but this guy sounds kooky...

Read his book and then judge for yourself.

14 posted on 12/15/2004 9:41:22 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: worldclass
Bjorn Lomborg's book, The Skeptical Environmentalist--Measuring the Real State of the World (Cambridge University Press, 2001) is a must read for those who want to understand the debates about environmentalism and resource allocation.
15 posted on 12/15/2004 9:57:56 AM PST by Faraday
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To: bboop

I met a television meteorologist on a train a couple years ago, he thought well of Lomberg and recommended his book to me at the time. The TV meteorologist's feeling was that some scientists push the global warming affected by man theory because they think they can get grants that way.


16 posted on 12/15/2004 10:04:50 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Paradox

I live in Sacramento. The city is on an alluvial plain that did not exist 20,000 years ago. My office is in Folsom where evidence of catastrophic flooding in ages past is everywhere.

This all happened when the glaciers on the Sierra mountains melted at the end of the last ice age. What happened? The world warmed up and has continually warmed since.

The rising sea levels broached the Bosporus about 7,500 years ago, inundating whole cities in what Robert Ballard thinks was the legendary Great Flood of antiquity.

These processes have been demonstrated to be going on over millenia and it is the socialist mind that is using this as a wedge for control over the world.

Global warming and cooling are cyclical and there is nothing we are doing to "cause" it.

Although sacrficing virgins may have an impact.


17 posted on 12/15/2004 10:07:03 AM PST by PeterFinn (The NAACP can have a recount of the Ohio vote if I can have a recount of the Million Man March.)
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To: Faraday

I agree, Skeptical Enviromentalist is a must read, and really puts things inperpective. It brings the truth to fromt and ccenter, and uses facts to back it up.


18 posted on 12/15/2004 10:44:34 AM PST by fontoon
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To: worldclass

Well, he's got his heart in the right place. I'm glad to see a lefty coming to the realization that environmentalism is more cultish than reasonable. I took an Eco class in junior college years ago, and remember having to comment on an article that blamed all the problems of pollution in the world on the 1st world consumption. I'd been to a few 3rd world countries at that time, and I didn't see their thick smog floating in from America or Europe. They're all heavily populated and relatively poor... and you just can't force strict smog control on poor auto-rickshaw drivers.


19 posted on 12/15/2004 11:12:55 AM PST by Sally II
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...kooky

Lomborg is a helluva courageous guy and far from kooky. He has been attacked mercilessly by his former compadres on the left since 1997, when he decided to take economist Julian Simon up on his challenge to actually test the doomsday predictions of the environmental left to find out whether they were true. The book that resulted, The Skeptical Environmentalist, Measuring the Real State of the World, though heavy sledding, is a must read for anyone who wants to debate environmental issues armed with the facts.

Lomborg is an associate professor of statistics in Denmark, and as such is well equipped to wade through decades of faulty data concerning the state of the environment. The book is chock full of sane arguments about the proper way to proceed to make a better world.

20 posted on 12/15/2004 11:56:27 AM PST by beckett
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