Would I lie?
Posted on 12/14/2004 5:36:48 PM PST by sarah_f
LONDON (AFP) - The leader of the rightwing British National Party(BNP), Nick Griffin, was arrested Tuesday after he called Islam a "vicious, wicked faith" in a television documentary.
Griffin, 45, was arrested on suspicion of "incitement to commit racial hatred" and held for questioning by police in northern England before he was released on bail several hours later.
When asked if he considered Islam a "vicious, wicked faith", Griffin urged reporters to study the Koran for themselves before saying: "There are aspects of that religion which are wicked."
He then condemned the treatment of women under Islam.
The BNP, which won 800,000 votes but no seats in the European elections in June, charged the arrest was part of a "crude" bid by Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites)'s government to win back Muslim votes lost over his war in Iraq (news - web sites).
A BNP spokesman said four non-uniformed police officers raiding the family farmhouse in Wales "awoke the Griffin household from their sleep" early Tuesday.
Griffin was the 12th person arrested in connection with the investigation into the BBC documentary aired in July.
The BNP's founding chairman John Tyndall, 70, was arrested on suspicion of the same offense on Sunday following a speech he made in the northwestern city of Burnley in March.
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Well, I guess it's going to take planes flying into Buckingham Palace and the Houses of Parliament to convince them. Too bad.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Many people expect some kind of starter cannon to go off, signaling the end of liberty.
Well, it appears that it's working its way here, too. It's already being worked into our system by means of the limitations of free speech which one could argue from the political and religious sides.
From the political sides, it's being worked in there with the campaign finance laws. From the religious side, from the issues of abortion, intelligent design (or the evolution debate, and getting it inside of schools), the ten commandments, and "Christmas" (or the "holidays" if you will...).
The craziness is already here.
Regards,
Star Traveler
btt
CAIR will definitely make sure of that (getting arrested, that is...).
Regards,
Star Traveler
What was the UK called in 1984 again? Might be time to break out the term now.
Between this and Belgium's banning of VB, democracy is on the verge of death in Old Europe...
/I really BNP are racist SOBs. I also realize that every man has a right to call any religion "wicked", at least in a free country.
Isn't it the same for Australia?
Regards,
Star Traveler
Yup, BNP is the old National Front dressed in suit & tie.
However, as the main parties refuse or are too wimpy to hold constructive debate about immigration, role of islam etc, them they can hardly complain if fringe parties arise - as they have in The Netherlands for example.
I read somewhere there has been no substantive debate on immigration in general in parliament since Enoch Powell's "Rivers of Blood" speech in mid 60s !
speaking the truth about Islam lands you in the slammer...PING
It comes from "Jewish sensitivies" and not naming the "name of God" -- therefore saying "G-d". It's sort of like how people write swear words here (without "actually" swearing, you see...). Although, I'm not equating the name of God with swear words (mind you).
Regards,
Star Traveler
Good God, it's coming down to a crusade - which I like the idea of.
I don't have much use for the UK anymore, save a few FRiends....3rd Wayers suck to low hell...and Tony Blair is one.
That...would be over my dead body m'am.
They can run off all the Non-Moos and have a pure Eurotrash Islamic State within a decade or so...
War between Good and evil...whatever the danger, we cannot turn away...we cannot run...
Would I lie?
Oh, man.
Up until now I thought the UK erred on the liberal side of free speech.
I kept hearing of some Imam (if that is the correct term for Muslim clergymen) issuing edicts saying it was right for Muslims to resist American and British forces in Iraq, or to kill women and children for such and such, etc.
I always thought that those speeches went beyond the bounds into inciting criminal behavior.
But this, unless there are some important details being left out, is almost too shocking to believe.
It is now a crime to criticize Islam in the UK?
'Eld forth meself. To my chagrin, I missed the opportunity to get all my points in. Here is one that indicates what this poor deluded country has to put up with. Dr. Theodore Dalrymple wrote that a friend had watched Islamists screaming for the death of Salman Rushdie. It was in the streets of a Yorkshire city. The fatwa had just been put out. The friend said to a policeman. "Why do you not arrest that man (screamer) for a "hate crime"?. He persisted and the Bobby said " F- off, or I will arrest you". I stand corrected but it seems a fatwa goes unpunished.
Once again, I do urge people to be careful. What ever Griffin is, and who knows, his views may be "over the top" or whatever, believe this. The BBC are corrupt shills and paid infiltrators then make "news" for them . Then, having created that "news", they put it out as fact. I think Americans have had a little experience with their own major networks. Poor old David Kelly, if anyone remembers. Ah lovely to be on the old internet.
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