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The Avalon Project : President Jackson's Veto Message Regarding ...
If the opinion of the Supreme Court covered the whole ground of this act, it ought not to control the coordinate authorities of this Government. The Congress, the Executive, and the Court must each for itself be guided by its own opinion of the Constitution. Each public officer who takes an oath to support the Constitution swears that he will support it as he understands it, and not as it is understood by others. It is as much the duty of the House of Representatives, of the Senate, and of the President to decide upon the constitutionality of any bill or resolution which may be presented to them for passage or approval as it is of the supreme judges when it may be brought before them for judicial decision. The opinion of the judges has no more authority over Congress than the opinion of Congress has over the judges, and on that point the President is independent of both. The authority of the Supreme Court must not, therefore, be permitted to control the Congress or the Executive when acting in their legislative capacities, but to have only such influence as the force of their reasoning may deserve.

1 posted on 12/14/2004 3:30:28 PM PST by Ed Current
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2 posted on 12/14/2004 3:35:04 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: Coleus; cpforlife.org; MHGinTN
Michael S. Paulsen - Faculty Profiles - UofM Law School
3 posted on 12/14/2004 3:36:37 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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I'm going to have to bookmark this to read later, but I'm hoping it supports in detail the bumper sticker I keep meaning to make:

Overturn Marbury v. Madison
NOW!

4 posted on 12/14/2004 3:39:29 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Ed Current

Thanks for posting. I learned as much in law school, but most non-lawyers (and, indeed, most lawyers) still believe that the federal courts are the sole arbiters of constitutional interpretation.


5 posted on 12/14/2004 3:40:23 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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Excerpt from a letter by James Madison to Joseph Cabell:

1. The meaning of the Phrase "to regulate trade" must be sought in the general use of it, in other words in the objects to which the power was generally understood to be applicable, when the Phrase was inserted in the Constn.

Jackson's philosophy seems to be of the FDR "living document" school of thought.

6 posted on 12/14/2004 3:41:39 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Ed Current

Read about one-third of it, and it appears that this will not go down well with the oligarchy - federal judges.

It will be interesting when the SC makes a ruling and some President in the future tells them to go fly a kite under power lines.


8 posted on 12/14/2004 3:47:19 PM PST by sergeantdave (Alas, poor Kerry, we know you well. That's why you lost.)
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Bookie-mark


9 posted on 12/14/2004 3:49:30 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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What a FANTASTIC article. I cannot BUMP this any higher!


14 posted on 12/14/2004 4:00:29 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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For openers, Marbury v. Madison did not create the concept of judicial review, but (in this respect) applied well-established principles.

If I recall correctly, it was Hamilton, defending a loyalist in New York immediately after the Revolutionary War, who first argued that his client's guilt or innocence under the law which he was being charged was irrelevant because the law itself was unjust.

Hamilton won the case. 

And that was several years prior to the Constitution.

15 posted on 12/14/2004 4:04:53 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a greag deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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bookmark for a cold winter night


19 posted on 12/14/2004 4:24:08 PM PST by IronJack
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If this was not written by a past editor of the Yale Law Journal, who teaches at the University of Minnesota Law School, and who is writing for a symphosium at the Northwestern Univ. School of Law, [he did work in the Regan Administration] I would think that some folks might consider this guy a backward yahoo.


20 posted on 12/14/2004 4:27:06 PM PST by Tom D. (Beer is Proof that God Loves Us and Wants Us to be Happy - B. Franklin)
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Important info to understanding where the courts went so terribly wrong.

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

21 posted on 12/14/2004 5:32:52 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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Thanks for posting.

It clears up a great deal of misunderstanding. This document is a sure weapon against truth decay.
22 posted on 12/14/2004 5:35:07 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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27 posted on 12/14/2004 8:04:03 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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Bump for later.


32 posted on 12/14/2004 9:14:35 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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To: Ed Current

Great post. Bookmarked.


34 posted on 12/14/2004 9:37:06 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Marshall wrote that the Supremacy Clause:

--- "confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument."


And the clause itself goes on to require that all legislative, executive, and judicial officers, both of the United States government and of the governments of the states, "be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution" . . .


What more need be said?









35 posted on 12/14/2004 10:17:15 PM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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Bump for later reading.


36 posted on 12/14/2004 10:20:55 PM PST by .38sw
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Marshall wrote that the Supremacy Clause:

--- "confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument."

And the clause itself goes on to require that all legislative, executive, and judicial officers, both of the United States government and of the governments of the states, "be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution" . . .

What more need be said?

37 posted on 12/14/2004 10:21:51 PM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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I had no idea Marbury was so...deep!
38 posted on 12/14/2004 10:25:06 PM PST by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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