The Power of Shame (Source of Sunni enmity)

National Review Online ^ | 12/13/04 (on NRO) | Steven Vincent

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A take I hadn't seen...

[MisterRepublican]

"...a freelance investigative journalist and art critic living in New York City."

The most important aspect of this story.

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I have to admit, I didn't quite follow the whole "we liberated them, and since they couldn't do it themselves, they're blowing us up out of humiliation" thing.

[lormand]

"Oh, no. I hate the soldiers. I hate them so much I fantasize about taking a gun and shooting one dead."

WTF? You have animals actively trying to drive the American soldier out of Iraq so they can put back an evil dictator who can rape these woman at will, and she wants to shoot an American?

Perhaps we should have used some nukes, and be done with the whole war on terror.

[txroadhawg]

"If only you'd given us more time, we would have risen up and overthrown him,"

I think the point is they didnt, couldn't and wouldn't. Not one muslim country would have helped them. They are weak and prefer to be ruled, led around by the nose.

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"Islam is", Khataw preaches, "a peaceful religion that is focused on charity and goodwill toward others."

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"Not to mention that Islam came to save humanity from ignorance and oppression. Islam is not a threat to any society. Islam calls for harmony and peaceful co-existence with other religions. It does not permit aggression, violence, injustice, or oppression. At the same time, it calls to morality, justice, tolerance, and peace."

Ummmm, no; no it's not. I won't go into *what it is*, as I'd probably get in trouble... aw, what the heck:

Islam, The Cult of Murder™.

Islam, The Cult of Terror™.

Islam, The Cult of Boy-Buggering™.

Islam, The Cult of Women-Chattelling™.

Islam, The Cult of Horror™.

Islam, The Cult of Rape™.

Islam, The Cult of Ritual Killing™.

Islam, The Cult of Beheading™.

Islam, The Cult of Deviants™.

Islam, The Cult of Hate™.

Islam, The Cult of Lies™.

Islam, The Cult of Female Mutilation™.

Islam, The Cult of Death™.

Islam, The Cult of Christian & Jew Killing™.

Islam, The Cult of Infidel Murder™.

Islam, The Cult of The Mentally-Ill™.

Islam, the Cult of Evil™.

Islam, the Cult of Poverty™.

Islam, the Cult of Illiteracy™.

Islam, the Religion of Peace™, and THEY'LL KILL YOU TO PROVE IT!

[Sans-Culotte]

And it was not just about them, anyway. Saddam posed a threat to us in a War on Terror. It would have been nice if the Iraqi people, in the spirit of not harboring terrorists, and complying with the Bush Doctrine had removed the Hussein family from power, but they didn't.

Like all people who live in a terror regime, they were too much in the grip of terror to do much of anything. I do not believe the ones killing Americans are doing so out of resentment. These resentful types quoted in the article are all talk, no action.

[txroadhawg]

In muslin countries, a threat is as good as a dead. They can defend their honor by saying something but dont actually have to do it.

[Ditto]

"A foreign army has to come across the world to free us from Saddam — who are we, then?"

Considering that Saddam robbed, raped, murdered and bankrupted your people over the course of 30 years with nary a challenge from inside, the question answers itself. You're a sheep.

Now you have a rare opportunity for sheep. You can watch the Americans, learn from them, and you just may be able to become a free man and have real pride, not the victims false pride.

[Conservative Canuck]

What are we gonna do with these people? Their brains are f*&%ed. Thye have no sense of civilised decency at all. The sooner the coalition is out, the better, and if they screw up again, just nuke 'em all.

[joesnuffy]

They need to know that they have two choices ..they can be free and democratic...contingent upon having to excise the terrorists among themselves both physically and spiritually....or they can die....

We have to impress this upon each and every one of them....with multiple object lessons..

For them the notion of 'live free or die'....will just have to be a bit different than the commonly held definition...

If they refuse to police themselves and continue to murder our people...then we must take down their numbers and lay their infrastructure so low it will take them several hundred years to recover enough to become a threat to us again....

imo

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Strange people....

of course this is more than likely a Liberal writer searching for his rewards.............From the:

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Unholy Alliance

by David Horowitz
Hardcover - (September 2004) - $27.95

In this tour de force on the most important issue of our time, David Horowitz, confronts the paradox of how so many Americans, including the leadership of the Democratic Party, could turn against the War on Terror. He finds an answer in a political Left that shares a view of America as the ?Great Satan? with America?s radical Islamic enemies.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See post above............

[prairiebreeze]

I'm not certain these individuals speak for all Sunni's. And even if they do, isn't that just too darned bad.

Prairie

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[Da Bilge Troll]

"If only you'd given us more time, we would have risen up and overthrown him"

Beulah the Buzzer says, "Yo tiiiiiime is UP!"

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Beulah the Buzzer says, "Yo tiiiiiime is UP!"

Yep, I think three decades was long enough. It's not like they didn't try. Thousands upon thousands lie in mass graves because of various "uprisings" against Saddam. But I agree with the earlier post, I think this is not the opinion of most Sunni.

But then, that's my opinion.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Good one...............

[Conservative Canuck]

Bingo. They should be ashamed of the fact they can't govern themselves in a civilized manner, THAT's what they should be ashamed of. But, if you take responsibility for yourselves, then you can't accuse the rest of the world of exploiting you and abusing you.

THis is something I've been thinking about for a while: it's not "The West" they hate. If not the West, it would be someone else. From the savage conquest of Islam in the 8th century, to the Ottoman Empire of the 20th, Arabs and Persians have suffered more from their own leaders and desposts than from any other source. And Arab civilization was destroyed by the Mongols. However, none of these are around anymore to hate and blame, so they've transferred it to "The West." Whether it's Britain, the US or Europe, it's easier to blame them than take responsibility for their own people. Leave 'em to slaughter each other I say, and if they venture forth, as in Afghanistan, NUKE EM!