Posted on 12/14/2004 7:14:55 AM PST by wkdaysoff
HARRISBURG, Pa. — The state American Civil Liberties Union (search) plans to file a federal lawsuit Tuesday against a Pennsylvania school district that is requiring students to learn about alternatives to the theory of evolution (search).
The ACLU said its lawsuit will be the first to challenge whether public schools should teach "intelligent design," which holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by some higher power....
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No. Instruments can easily detect to lower levels pushing C-14 to about 50,000 years. Isotopes can be detected after many half-lives have passed.
And this even makes an assumption that the rate of decay is a constant, and that C14 was not created already at its half-life.
This statement still does no make any since.
since >> sense.
I guess your an expert, okay then, if she was not a chimpanzee, how come she was only 3 ft tall? Where was her knee joint found in relation to the rest of her body? How much of her was really found? What did the world's leading "Lucy" expert say about her?
Why would any designer half-assedly fuse two chimp chromosomes together for use in humans? The innumerable processed pseudogenes (completely silent and functionless)? Vast wastelands of DNA between open reading frames, which genetic experiments have confirmed many times over, are pointless? This is one sloppy designer were talking about here! If it was shop class he would barely get a "D".
I hate to tell you this, but the junk DNA hypothesis has been pretty well refuted.
First of all there is no "junk DNA hypothesis". The human genome has been sequenced and much of it has been postively identified as dead selfish DNA elements.
Secondly, it is an enormous stretch based on one or two papers which show a role for a few nucleotides in some of this DNA (a very, very tiny fraction BTW), to say that all of this junk DNA has a purpose.
The better explanation is that once incorporated into the genome, the system adapted a bit of what was there for its own purposes. If you postulate a designer intentionally put all of this in, then I would have to say that he/she was either lazy, stupid or malicious.
What's more, is that the number of protein coding genes found is much less than the number of actual proteins found, indicating that there is a much more complex process taking place than we realize.
This really isn't that much of a mystery. Many gene messages (esp. those in humans) are alternatively shuffled in various combinations.
Ironic since creationists have no problems with this occuring at the RNA level, yet somehow determine that it is impossible for it to occur by random mutation at the DNA level.
Then you do not know much of him.
Even creationist websites like ICR and AiG distance themselves from "Dr. Dino".
After reading your posts, I think that is what you have been trying to ask. "How do we know the original ratio of the sample we are dating".
Here you go:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/isochron-dating.html
Now you know. :-)
And he runs an amusement park in his backyard.
Voltaire admits that a civil moral society requires a God, that is my arguement. So I like the quote.
Wow, you know you just insulted almost your entire country? It is self-serving, uninformed, unintellectual, and ignorant statements such as yours used as a response to a question they can't sufficiently answer or say, hey, maybe it wasn't discarded. Nope, it's easier to insult, condescend, and pretend that we are a bunch of whackos as that maintains your self-esteem and requires no responsibility to have faith. And, dear professor (doubt the right wing entirely), you know as well as anyone how transparent your statement about people questioning other things so they believe in the literal truth of the bible. Kind of backard thinking, huh prof? Isn't it those people who shun people of faith because they are afraid that faith and consequence are real and they don't want to give up their pleasure-driven lifestyles, you know, the other things that would be questioned. I had a little respect for you, now gone. It's like when you talk to a liberal and they get caught in the corner and all they can do is scratch and bite in defense. They've lost all reason and ability to clearly think and strategize.
With the exception of human sacrifice, I would suggest that you could find all of these in 19th century America. With the exception of polygamy (which was limited to what is now the state of Utah) all were not particularly uncommon then.
Sure, but that wasn't exactly my point. He said in an earlier post that he can't see why murder or rape is wrong if his god doesn't exist. So if this god doesn't exist and he knows it, why does he agree with Voltaire that such a god should be made up?
Or would he refrain from murdering and raping although he knows that this god is just a figment of someones imagination?
Well, in that case you may also like this column by Jacob Sullum.
My point was that many do behave as if God were only invented.
"You too can Google, lots of articles on Christan being jailed on hate speech laws for reading the bible aloud (in church)."
Odd. I can't find anything of the kind. And I thought I had become pretty proficient with boolean searches.
Please point out to me where I stated that God does not exist? Belief in Him is a matter of faith and discussion, not debate with unknown, faceless posters with an agenda.
Sorry. Meant to ping you to post 616. Do you have information on whether the pastor of the church was in fact reading the Bible (not that there is a whole lot of difference between the actual "crime" and the "crime" of reading the Bible).
The fact that the billion or so Buddists in the world aren't running around murdering and raping everyone pretty much blows the "Fear of God is required to keep people moral" argument out of the water.
A majority of Americans think antibiotics kill viruses as well as bacteria. (That is indubitably false, and I don't care what they tell you in Church)
45% of Americans think lasers operate by focusing sound waves (the 'l' in 'laser' stands for light).
48% of Americans think humans coexisted with dinosaurs (I guess we can blame that one equally on creationists and the Flintstones)
Only 54% know it takes a year for the Earth to orbit the sun. In 1999, 18% in fact believed the sun orbits the earth.
Americans are almost comically ignorant of science. You can find that disturbing, reprehensible, or whatever; but it's a fact. That 68% don't believe in evolution simply follows a pattern of demonstrable ignorance.
One source out of many: http://www.uiowa.edu/~anthro/webcourse/lost/nsf%20poll.htm
I had a little respect for you, now gone.
Ma'am, you believe the Earth was created 6000 years ago. You trust a 3000 year old creation myth of a tribe of middle-eastern pastoralists over the evidence of basic science and ordinary common sense. You need to understand that it would worry me more if I had your respect.
The purpose of showing the 6 different examples of evolution or "change" is to show how evolutionists use one to explain the other. Just because micro evolution is proven, does not mean macro-evolution is. Just like cosmic evolution happened doesn't make it necessarily so that chemical evolution did. So I guess we agree on that point of view.
Dogs and wolves are of a kind, dogs and flowers are not.
And, I beg to differ, Genesis does falsify evolution.
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