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To: OESY
I have to agree with the writer on this one....


Flame Away!
2 posted on 12/14/2004 6:05:33 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: dagoofyfoot

Allow me to rewrite:

...Think about the Kerik example: The man and his wife have two small kids.... A nanny offers that help, and she seems both nice enough and gets along with kids. Whether or not she's "legal" seems less important to most American parents than whether she's trustworthy and hard-working.

As for the nanny, she's traveled hundreds, if not thousands, of miles from home to make some money to send to her family back in Pakistan. Her son's primary concern is to bring death to the evil infidels of the United States. So, she finds a good family that pays decently and treats her well. Are we really supposed to believe that this kind of transaction between consenting adults jeopardizes our national security?

There. Make more sense now?


9 posted on 12/14/2004 6:21:32 AM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: dagoofyfoot
Whether or not she's "legal" seems less important to most American parents than whether she's trustworthy and hard-working.

What a bunch of crap. This is to avoid paying "legal" wages and paying social security tax.

10 posted on 12/14/2004 6:22:15 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: dagoofyfoot

When did we stop being "a nation of laws?"


17 posted on 12/14/2004 6:32:16 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (You can drive from coast to coast and never pass through a single county won by Kerry.)
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To: dagoofyfoot

Nannies are fine, unless you actually talk to a professional nanny. And then you'll see how they have hurt the nanny business (with the exception of foreign students, but that's another story).

If you don't know any nannies, it's okay, because you can wait for your friend the carpenter, the carpet installer, the dry wall guy, the mechanic, or the cement guy to get displaced. Basically, I'm talking about all of the trades, with the exception of plumbers and electricians (but maybe even those, too).

Anyway, it's already started. A guy I know needed a new floor. He hired three guys, bought the flooring at Home Depot. Cost of labor? $250 for two days for all three guys.
All three guys were hard working and good with their hands, while one of them was actually a skilled carpenter.


20 posted on 12/14/2004 6:34:32 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: dagoofyfoot
Real nice and warm and fuzzy stuff about the nanny. You know of course, once the warm and fuzzies are brought into the equation for law breakers, it all goes to hell. The defense of the Mendez bro's..."Have mercy! We're orphans!"

Doesn't wash.

FMCDH(BITS)

25 posted on 12/14/2004 6:50:42 AM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: dagoofyfoot

I have to agree with the writer on this one....

All I've read is the excerpt posted, but I agree that the wage threshold should be raised. The current threshold is $999 per year. If you pay an 'employee' $1,000 or more per year, then you're req'd to pay both SS & Unemployment. This affects citizen part-timers also. It's not just an illegal immigrant thing.

36 posted on 12/14/2004 7:13:13 AM PST by elli1
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To: dagoofyfoot

"Are we really supposed to believe that this kind of transaction between consenting adults jeopardizes our national security?"

So if I want to hire an Islamic suicide bomber to take out the crack house in my neighborhood it's ok?


38 posted on 12/14/2004 7:16:58 AM PST by dljordan
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To: dagoofyfoot; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; ...
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Pleased to oblige...

The writer makes arguments that make agreement pleasant, however, the writer is dead wrong. Think of the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike. Eventually, the dike gave way and the ocean poured in to destroy his village. Quaint? Perhaps. Accurate? Absolutely.

46 posted on 12/14/2004 7:25:40 AM PST by HiJinx ( www.ProudPatriots.com ~ Operation Valentine's Day)
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To: dagoofyfoot

Federal agents arrested 25 foreign nationals yesterday as suspected sexual predators in Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan and the Bronx, N.Y., as part of a continuing law-enforcement investigation known as "Operation Predator," U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials said.
Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Michael J. Garcia, who heads ICE, said that among those arrested were a 38-year-old Honduran man convicted of rape, sodomy and five counts of sexual abuse on a 14-year-old, and a 44-year-old Guyanese man convicted of sexual abuse of his daughter and another underage girl.
"Sexual predators, particularly those who prey on our nation's children, will continue to be a top priority in our immigration-enforcement efforts," said Mr. Garcia. "We are a nation of opportunity, but also of laws. These convicted criminals have forfeited their chance at opportunity by violating our laws.
"ICE plans to remove them from the United States as quickly as possible," he said.
Martin F. Horn, commissioner of the New York City Department of Probation, said New York has "no tolerance for those who endanger our citizens," adding that city officials "appreciate the work of ICE and the Department of Homeland Security in supporting our efforts to keep New York the safest big city in the United States."
Operation Predator is a nationwide ICE initiative to protect children from criminal alien sex offenders, child sex tourists, Internet child pornographers and human traffickers.
Mr. Garcia described those arrested as foreign-born sex offenders who have been convicted of charges that include rape, sodomy, sexual abuse, sexual misconduct and endangering the welfare of a child. He said they are now eligible for removal from the United States.
Raid targets are from 17 countries including Antigua, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Liberia, Mexico, Nigeria, Panama, Russia, St. Kitts, Togo, and Trinidad and Tobago.
ICE's New York Office of Detention and Removal participated in the processing transfer and detention of the predators.
Since Operation Predator began in July 2003, ICE has arrested more than 4,500 child predators nationwide, about 85 percent of whom have been identified as foreign national sex offenders — about 40 percent of which have been illegal aliens.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041201-114748-4461r.htm


97 posted on 12/14/2004 8:12:43 AM PST by immigrationreformactivist
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To: dagoofyfoot
As for the nanny,.......Her primary concern isn't running some Immigration Service gantlet but is to find a good family that pays decently and treats her well.

As for the car thief, her primary concern is not running the "gauntlet" of law or the property owner, but to find quality transportation to provide for her family.

Different, how?
101 posted on 12/14/2004 8:37:34 AM PST by moehoward
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To: dagoofyfoot
Are we really supposed to believe that this kind of transaction between consenting adults jeopardizes our national security?

Yes, because if some nanny can sneak across the border undetected, what makes you believe a trained terrorist can't.

102 posted on 12/14/2004 8:43:22 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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