Posted on 12/13/2004 8:27:50 PM PST by Kuksool
So, you'll just join the fray and indulge in some ill informed rubbish of your own? Brilliant. Still just as vapid and shallow as I recall you and your clique to be.
you didn't get the joke then.
freep me if you want it explained.
merry christmas - if thats allowed over there.
also, if you could explain to us brits how ill-informed we are with relation to the current working practices of british schools we'd be be very grateful.
(my wife is a teacher in the local primary school which our elder daughter attends)
you'd almost think people from 3,000 miles away were pontificating upon things of which they had no knowledge.
There are two sides to any story. Sometimes if the story comes from a publication that I know has a tendency to print anything negative towards something and nothing positive as a vehicle to push their political philosophies, yes, I do really wonder about it. It monstly happens in a liberal media, but is used on the other side as well. Just like all of the negative things we see about Iraq. The good stuff that happens doesn't get reported. There are plenty of good teachers and things that happen, but in our negative and biased society today, we tend to look past things. We also have become a blame the other guy society rather than saying what we can do to help out. We like to sit and complain about things instead.
You have to attack public schools with money (or removal of money). It does not matter if 1/2 of all students are homeschooled, that leaves the other 1/2 to be indoctrinated with 100% of all the tax dollars.
Sorry, there is no systematic ploy to indoctrinate kids. I personally respect homeschooling parents who do it right (I have seen some very good ones and others who used it as an excuse for an extra babysitter too).
The best solution is to go beyond vouchers and allow homeschoolers to withold property tax dollars since they will use the money for their own children.
Homeschooling is a personal choice, not a tax expense. Other taxpayers like me would be paying for others' personal choices. The solution is to keep homeschooling as a viable option (with not so much regulation, but if the child returns to public schools, he or she should be up to standard academically--something I have seen only once in nine years of teaching). Public taxes should not be used as a subsidy for private matters. That makes it a liberal issue then.
As a teacher, I try to go beyond taxes and find different ways to do things to save expenses. In my state, we have done so for decades. I think the solution is not lots more money being spent or withdrawn. The solution is interaction, giving a little time, and changing our attitudes. That doesn't take much money at all.
Sue them. It is the only thing that will work.
It's called equal protection under the law. Turn the p/c b/s back on them .
Good perspectives Phoenix.
"No, I think the focus of the attention being afforded a small group is possibly offending the majority because that majority feels their beliefs are not afforded the same attention or respect. The latter being wrong does not make the former wrong as well. What my point is, religion should be able to be practiced anywhere and anytime a practitioner feels it is necessary. Regardless of whether they are Christian, Jewish, or Islamic. The reality is that there are entities working against just one particular set of beliefs, that being Christianity. This is wrong. And for the population, most of which is Christian, to let these groups get the upper hand is showing either capitulation or shear inconsideration of their own beliefs. These groups have the opportunity to do what they do because many Christians allow liberal, "tolerant" judges and legislators the opportunity to hold an office that can affect law. The solution would be for Christians to be on the same page philosophically, politically, and socially to ensure their rights are not stepped on."
May I suggest a devilish variation on your excellent idea? It is, quite simply, EVERY DAY IS A HOLIDAY (HOLY DAY, if we dare). It would drive the atheists, secular humanists, postmodern liberals and their diverse coalition of related crackpots, even more insane than they already are. It would drive home the point, 24 hours a day and 7 days a week, that these "sensitive" multiculturalists are, in fact, ANTI-cultural and INSENSITIVE. It would challenge them with the truth that the worst kind of fundamentalism ever to insert its cancerous tentacles into the American body politic is the leftist fundamentalism known as political correctness.
To quote a Catholic saint, Teresa of Avila, "Live today as if it were the last day of your life, and you know you are about to face judgment."
I am glad you took the time to read the whole post. I generally am at fault for posting long drawn out monologues and frequently get called to the mat because some don't read the entire posts. So thank you for your attention to the complete post.
Phoenix
Actually Catholics fast and pray the rosary. right now because of advent I try to do little sacfrices and yes fasting from certain foods.
When my son was in the first grade we had a tornado warning and him and another boy began to pray and the other kids listened. But the teacher was supportive. He is 22 now so it has been a while. And when my kids went to public school there was days we had to go to church because it was considered a holy day. Think we should have take him out of school to go to church?
You my dear are completely correct. It is to slowly get to the kids. When I was in school, public school we prayed, we had the ten commandments, we sung religious songs and there were no school shootings, And the nutty teachers were not running around having sex with the kids.
What on earth are you talking about?
I am Catholic and advent is celebrated over many weeks, it continues into the new year. Yes we still fast on Fridays the only thing that was changed is that if you chose to do something else say go Mass, read scriptures, pray the rosary, fast you could do that instead. But many people still fast on Fridays.
The problem I have with New York is abortion, it started there and a politician would never get elected without being prochoice. And the fact that the gay community trashed the Cathedral with condoms filled with sperm and threw them all over the church. And it happend more than once. Where was the outcry after the first time?
Do you live in NY? Is that where you had to take your children out of school to go to church?
Of the observances you listed, which specifically is scheduled to interfere with the school day?
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