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To: RightWingAtheist
Quick question: what are some of the other notable "heuristic devices" in science, and when and where are they most useful?

Examples that come to mind are Schrödinger's Cat, the "inflating balloon" illustration of inflation or Hubble expansion, and the Bohr model of the atom (disproven as a viable model but still taught). These heuristic devices, in contrast to the Drake equation, are used to relate abstract mathematical concepts to more easily understood physical examples. That is their most important use, IMHO, but they carry the danger that people become beguiled by--and base objections on--irrelevant details of the illustrations, rather than grasp their salient points. (What if someone hears the cat meow? What is the balloon expanding into, and what if you're inside the balloon? Why aren't atoms flat like the solar system? etc.)

Some of the more far-out people in my area (rhetoric of science) tend to view all scientific expressions and equations as "giving names to things we don't know."

I don't think that's tenable. Consider the equation for rest mass energy, E=mc²: energy (E) is what we measure with a calorimeter, the speed of light (c) is what we measure with rulers and clocks; mass (m) is the ratio of force (measured by springs, for example) to acceleration (measured by clocks and rulers). All of these things are already independently known, or at least named unambiguously. Given these quantities, relation E=mc² is testably either right or wrong.

59 posted on 12/14/2004 1:17:25 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Examples that come to mind are Schrödinger's Cat, the "inflating balloon" illustration of inflation or Hubble expansion, and the Bohr model of the atom (disproven as a viable model but still taught). These heuristic devices, in contrast to the Drake equation, are used to relate abstract mathematical concepts to more easily understood physical examples.

OK, I think I get it now. Would the Turing Machine and Maxwell's Demon also count?

Some of the more far-out people in my area (rhetoric of science) tend to view all scientific expressions and equations as "giving names to things we don't know." I don't think that's tenable.

I don't consider it tenable either. I tend to argue that our equations and other forms of scientific expression are cognitive extensions, and possibly even (this really tends to raise hackles in any crowd) evolved features, or exaptated from other cognitive traits which have have been selectively evolved. As RA said earlier, both the ability to do science and the drive to do it seem to be innate human traits.

101 posted on 12/16/2004 11:50:46 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-the creationism of the left)
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