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To: areafiftyone

Any chance that an elector may vote differently than the state? I'm sure the Rats would love to see it, but I haven't heard about the possibility.


5 posted on 12/13/2004 8:32:31 AM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Welcome to my addiction.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

One or two might vote differently but it won't change the outcome.


8 posted on 12/13/2004 8:33:15 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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No I don't think so.


10 posted on 12/13/2004 8:34:49 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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It's possible, some states have laws that require electors to vote for the winner, but some don't. West Virginia doesn't and a Republican elector, said before the election that if Bush won, he might not vote for Bush, After the election he said that Bush won by such a large margin, he might go ahead and vote for Bush. In 2000 some of the rats tried to get info on electors and get them to switch or not vote, a Dem elector from D.C. decided not to vote in 2000


18 posted on 12/13/2004 8:38:56 AM PST by jbwbubba (Will we be a nation based on hate or Faith)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
Any chance that an elector may vote differently than the state? I'm sure the Rats would love to see it, but I haven't heard about the possibility.

The electors can vote however they want. If all 538 wanted to elect Howard Dean and Dennis "The Lawn Gnome" Kucinich, they could do that. However, it isn't going to happen. The electors have been picked because they will vote for whomever carried their state. While there might be one elector who casts a protest vote (as a D.C. elector did in 2000), the chances of the election being altered by the electoral college is between very slim and none.

19 posted on 12/13/2004 8:38:59 AM PST by COEXERJ145
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The West Virginia GOP elector has said that he may not use his vote for Bush, that would mean the final total is 285.


29 posted on 12/13/2004 8:43:37 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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Yes, but if it were to occur, the House can challenge those faithless electors.


37 posted on 12/13/2004 8:47:16 AM PST by Perdogg (W stands for Winner)
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List of Electors Bound by State Law and Pledges, as of November 2000

No Legal Requirement
Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:

ARIZONA - 10 Electoral Votes
ARKANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
DELAWARE - 3 Electoral Votes
GEORGIA - 15 Electoral Votes
IDAHO - 4 Electoral Votes
ILLINOIS - 21 Electoral Votes
INDIANA - 11 Electoral Votes
IOWA - 7 Electoral Votes
KANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
KENTUCKY - 8 Electoral Votes
LOUISIANA - 9 Electoral Votes
MINNESOTA - 10 Electoral Votes

MISSOURI - 11 Electoral Votes
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 4 Electoral Votes
NEW JERSEY - 15 Electoral Votes
NEW YORK - 31 Electoral Votes
NORTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
PENNSYLVANIA - 21 Electoral Votes
RHODE ISLAND - 4 Electoral Votes
SOUTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
TENNESSEE - 11 Electoral Votes
TEXAS - 34 Electoral Votes
UTAH - 5 Electoral Votes
WEST VIRGINIA - 5 Electoral Votes


Legal Requirements or Pledges
Electors in these States are bound by State Law or by pledges to cast their vote for a specific candidate:

ALABAMA - 9 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - § 17-19-2
ALASKA - 3 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - § 15.30.040; 15.30.070
CALIFORNIA - 55 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 6906
COLORADO - 9 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 1-4-304
CONNECTICUT - 7 Electoral Votes
State Law § 9-175
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA - 3 Electoral Votes
DC Pledge / DC Law - § 1-1312(g)
FLORIDA - 27 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - § 103.021(1)
HAWAII - 4 Electoral Votes
State Law - §§ 14-26 to 14-28
MAINE - 4 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 805
MARYLAND - 10 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 20-4
MASSACHUSETTS - 12 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - Ch. 53, § 8, Supp.
MICHIGAN - 17 Electoral Votes
State Law - §168.47 (Violation cancels vote and elector is replaced).
MISSISSIPPI - 6 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - §23-15-785(3)
MONTANA - 3 Electoral Votes
State Law - §13-25-104
NEBRASKA - 5 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 32-714
NEVADA - 5 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 298.050
NEW MEXICO - 5 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 1-15-5 to 1-15-9 (Violation is a fourth degree felony.)
NORTH CAROLINA - 15 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 163-212 (Violation cancels vote; elector is replaced and is subject to $500 fine.)
OHIO - 20 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 3505.40
OKLAHOMA - 7 Electoral Votes
State Pledge / State Law - 26, §§ 10-102; 10-109 (Violation of oath is a misdemeanor, carrying a fine of up to $1000.)
OREGON - 7 Electoral Votes
State Pledge / State Law - § 248.355
SOUTH CAROLINA - 8 Electoral Votes
State Pledge / State Law - § 7-19-80 (Replacement and criminal sanctions for violation.)
VERMONT - 3 Electoral Votes
State Law - title 17, § 2732
* VIRGINIA - 13 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 24.1-162 (Virginia statute may be advisory - "Shall be expected" to vote for nominees.)
WASHINGTON - 11 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - §§ 29.71.020, 29.71.040, Supp. ($1000 fine.)
WISCONSIN - 10 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 7.75
WYOMING - 3 Electoral Votes
State Law - §§ 22-19-106; 22-19-108


44 posted on 12/13/2004 8:54:55 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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"Any chance that an elector may vote differently than the state?"



There is an elector in North Dakota who is a member of the Constitution Party and who HATES Bush. It's very possible that their will go to someone else. I hope not not, but you heard it here first.


49 posted on 12/13/2004 9:01:13 AM PST by need_a_screen_name
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To: I'm ALL Right!; jbwbubba; michigander
It is possible that an elector could vote differently than his/her state, but in practice it is infrequent. Seems like the 1948 election was the last time that any serious # of votes were cast in a manner different from the state (Strom Thurmond's run for Prez as a Dixiecrat).

As bubba & michigander pointed out, some states have laws requiring the elector to vote w/ the state. Those laws, however, are of questionable constitutionality - the Constitution (and Framers) didn't anticipate political parties the way we have them now, and fully expected the electors to use their best judgment to elect the Prez & VP.

67 posted on 12/13/2004 9:11:36 AM PST by Ready4Freddy (Carpe Sharpei !)
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ny chance that an elector may vote differently than the state?

There's another thread around here that said that one 'rat elector voted for John Edwards rather than Kerry. (snicker)

267 posted on 12/13/2004 3:13:10 PM PST by alnick
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