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The trouble with hate crimes: Joseph Farah exposes dark underbelly of homosexual lifestyle
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, December 13, 2004 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 12/12/2004 11:36:48 PM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: DirtyHarryY2K
The fact is two boys were murdered and the news media coverage of the Shepard case rivaled that of 9/11/01 while on the other hand, coverage of the Dirkhising case is swept under the rug(so as to not shed a bad light on homosexual behavior) and ignored

The fact is that one man was murdered in a drug deal gone bad and one child was brutally tortured raped and murdered by a 'monogamous gay couple'. Subtle but important difference

61 posted on 12/13/2004 10:26:20 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: visualops
The second and seventh items both relate more closely to the Dirkhising murder since they are both sodomite rape/murders. Seems to be a lot of that sort of thing in the sodomite world
62 posted on 12/13/2004 10:29:11 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: StonyBurk
And I recall that elderly Christian who was murdered in Chicago because she thought she had a free exercise right to explain to a homosexual what the Bible says about his choice of lifestyle.

Her name was Mary Stachowicz, and the sodmite who bludgeoned her to death was her tenant. She showed kindness to a sodomite and get murdered for her effort.

63 posted on 12/13/2004 10:30:51 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: little jeremiah
You're welcome!

Links to articles about Jesse Dirkhising


We must also remember Jeffrey Curley.

( additional info here ).

64 posted on 12/13/2004 11:06:53 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: JohnHuang2
The more we tolerate, celebrate and condone the "alternative lifestyles" that bring us such horrors, the more of these horrors we'll see – or, thanks to the cover-up artists in the elite media, won't see.

Like many Americans the media lives in their own dream world. They don't want to be bothered with the truth, because the truth upsets the rose colored glasses they wear when they are around evil. As I heard a liberal say one day, "I can't stand the anti abortion crowd. They insist that I make a decision either for or against." Yep, that's the typical American cop outer.

65 posted on 12/13/2004 11:08:06 AM PST by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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To: xm177e2; DirtyHarryY2K; ArGee
It means, Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered because he was a homosexual. BS, BS, BS… Which is why it's okay to lie about it (and claim it was the result of a robbery-gone-wrong).

The only lie here is the one you homosexuals perpetuate. You should know above all that homosexuals turn to drug use to escape the filth and degradation they feel day in, day out because of their life choices.

Shepard was an HIV ridden methamphetamine addict hanging out with that kind ilk. He got beat up because McKinney was in a methamphetamine rage, something common with that kind of drug use…but don’t let that FACT detour you from your victim hood; your perversion needs that to justify your abomination.

BTW, McKinney is "bi-sexual", why would he beat up one of his/your own?

66 posted on 12/13/2004 11:09:20 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
Yeah? And how many murders are the result from methamphetamine rage? Got those stats handy or are you just here to support the homosexual agenda?
67 posted on 12/13/2004 11:12:01 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Not here to support the homosexual agenda.

1. original article - robbery appeared to be the motive all along

2. reply from xm177e2 - Robberies generally don't end up with the victim tortured to death

3. visualops - 10 examples of robberies ending in torture

4. trisham - based on 10 examples, conclusion - robberies generally end in torture

5. I disagreed. Robberies don't generally end in torture.

6. Clint N. Suhks - LFM support the homosexual agenda.

I stand by my statement - robberies don't generally end in torture unto death. And that means I support the homosexual agenda?

If jumping to conclusions were an olympic sport, you just qualified... Ok with you if I still pray for those I know trapped in the homosexual lie?


68 posted on 12/13/2004 11:40:37 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (My tagline can beat up your tagline.)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
robberies don't generally end in torture unto death.

And you've made no effort to support those anecdotal "facts" when methamphetamine is involved. "The Methamphetamine abuser remains awake for days, and as the high begins to wear off, the individual enters the tweaking stage and is prone to violence, delusions, and paranoia." Try googling "methamphetamine, rage, murder" and about 30 or so Matthew Shepard articles pop up...see any correlation there? Now you go on and keep pushing the homosexual propagandist victimhood side of the murder and you'll remain the monkey with its hand over its ears.

69 posted on 12/13/2004 12:23:09 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: JohnHuang2

You mean Conyers was not on top of this!!

All this Hate Crime Legislation is doing, is control of our freedom of speech and expression. Look at Holland.

After the murder of Van Goegh by the Muslims for his movie concerning the extreme treatment of Women, the Dutch People, namely the Conservative Dutch Political Party, the largest in the nation, was shut down. By who, The activist judges of course. The Judges stated that by demanding that muslims no longer be allowed to enter Holland, The Conservative Political Party was Racist and that thier demand was a Hate Crime!!

This is where the Conyers, Jacksons, Lee's, Kennedy's, Biden's and allof the rest of the Socialist Gang intend to take us and imprison us for a right guranteed by the Constitution. Yes we have the RIGHT to HATE, just as we have the RIGHT to Love.

Why Christians and the Church are unable to fight the culture war
Restore America - http://www.noDNC.com ^ | October 23, 2004
Posted on 10/23/2004 1:15:13 AM EDT by woodb01
Why Christians and the Church are unable to fight the culture war
although it's still not too late
October 23, 2004
http://www.nodnc.com

Often, in and out of church walls today, we hear about the apathy of the religious community. Hardly a month goes by that the church is not embroiled in some major controversy to the glee of the anti-christian left. The Church in America has lost its soul. The American church no longer fears God, and no longer loves God.

If this sounds like harsh criticism, I intend to fully support it in just a moment.

First, a little background. Since as far back as I can remember, I was raised in a Baptist Church, in my late teen years, after considerable rebellion, I had an "awakening" to what is meant by being "born again" after getting involved in the Pentecostal / Charismatic movement. Not the typical emotional "born again" experience that many people go through, but a true, life-changing, life-altering event that only an encounter with a living God could have initiated. This event led me to pour over the pages of the Bible for over 20 years, reading it cover to cover many times.

In a direct parallel to the church and our out of control culture today, I was on a roller coaster ride. On the wagon, off the wagon, running after God, running away from God, believing in a Heavenly Father and then having my doubts. Compromise, tolerance, foolishness, and sin were regular occurrences in my life, just like the American Church and American Culture today.

Then one day reading my Bible I stumbled on this:
Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil...
That unnerved me because I didn't HATE evil. I was "tolerant," I was accepting just like all good little secular humanist citizens should be. I knew there was something wrong because if I didn't fear God, then how could I profess to truly be a Christian? Then other verses struck me:
Psalms 97:10 You that love the LORD, hate evil...
Romans 12:9 ...Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Confronted with this harsh reality that I did not HATE evil and therefore did not love or fear God, I was forced to change. My realization forced me to concede that I was headed straight for hell--, just like today's American Culture, and frighteningly enough, the American Church.

HATE, is a passionate thing. HATE is an active thing. You can't be apathetic if you have that passion. Activism and involvement against the causes of evil are the obvious results. Am I advocating violence? NO! Absolutely not! What I am advocating is serious, sincere, and committed activism to confronting and changing the sick and twisted evil in this culture today.

For example, as prayer was taken out of the schools, and abortion became the judge made "law of the land," every pastor and Christian in this country should have been running for Congress for the sole purpose of impeaching the Supreme Court Justices. It should have been the American Church's passion to stop the evils of the anti-christian assaults of American religious tradition and to stop the butcher of innocent human life. But there was nothing.
Today, with the controversy surrounding gay marriage, it hasn't been the Protestant faiths leading the fight, but the Catholic church, family groups, father's groups, and the Republican Party. The American Church's protestants are eerily silent.

Recently the democrats in Congress attempted to pass new "hate crimes" legislation identical to Canada's. In Canada, it is a hate crime to preach against homosexuality, even if you take it directly from the Bible. Yet still the church and christians do nothing.

The church, the family, values, morals, ethics, our children and our country are under attack. A relentless assault is being waged on patriotism and America from treasonous traitors within and still the American Church stands idly by as a spectator. It's time for American Christians to find their passion and their souls. DEMAND that your pastor abide by the Bible and teach what the Bible says about hating evil and if that pastor refuses, that pastor does NOT fear the Lord, and does NOT love God! That pastor must be removed from that position. It's time for the American Church to clean house and once cleaned to stand face to face with the vile anti-christian beast that has arisen in American government and lop the 7 headed hydra's heads off!


70 posted on 12/13/2004 12:33:14 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Now you go on and keep pushing the homosexual propagandist victimhood side of the murder and you'll remain the monkey with its hand over its ears

Dude, I am not the enemy here. Generally, robbery does not end in torture. In this case, it may certainly have.

I do not understand the homosexual agenda. When I was not-all-that-much-younger, the cry was 'what difference does it make what 2 people do in their bedroom'. Now it is in-your-face, love me or be called a bigot. What they do is hated by God, who they are should be loved by us (following God's example). No more, no less.

71 posted on 12/13/2004 12:59:19 PM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (My tagline can beat up your tagline.)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
Generally, robbery does not end in torture. In this case, it may certainly have.

Well...there you go again. Your use of the propagandist's word "torture" indicates it was a "hate crime". No where in the story does it say Shepard was tortured, you can only support that conclusion if you believe the homosexual propagandist's myth.

It may be that robbery doest usually end in torture, but that's NOT what happened here! Some bad guys "tweeking" on crank beat another fellow addict "Shepard" to death because it felt good to him, NOT because he was homosexual. McKinney himself is bisexual, why would he be prejudice to his fellow perverts? Can you answer that? Can you answer how methamphetamine affects violent behavior? NO and NO! You'd just rather sit back and believe the homo-proaganda that it was a hate crime, you're either too lazy or a peddler or their agenda. Which is it?

72 posted on 12/13/2004 1:23:17 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: xm177e2

Homosexuals hate themselves -therefore, homosexuality should be a hate crime.


73 posted on 12/13/2004 1:29:12 PM PST by DBeers
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To: JohnHuang2

Good post - this needs to be told - the media continues to lie about the crimes of homosexuals against our children.


74 posted on 12/13/2004 1:32:41 PM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

More has been written about the Columbine massacre than the Beslan massacre yet as tragic as the shootings at Columbine were, the horrors at Beslan were far worse and we are poised more to witness another Beslan than Columbine.


75 posted on 12/13/2004 1:37:31 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: tuesday afternoon

The Homosexual Agenda is the battering ram breaking down laws and morals to advance the even larger Sex Positive Agenda.

You ain't seen nothing yet. Is it a "slipperly slope" when in reality they are just trying to get their foot in the door to actively push a lot of other changes? "Slippery slope" implies an accidental decline in a situation rathar than describing a deliberate act.


76 posted on 12/13/2004 1:40:50 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: armordog99

Are you implying that lynchings were justified in the union movement?

Socialists and organized crime have also long played a part in organized labor. At what point can you separate the myth from the reality of history or do you always take criminals and communists at their word?

Communism has been a threat to America since 1917.


77 posted on 12/13/2004 1:44:23 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: sasafras

Thanks for the polemic, graphic story. Its sick, sad and criminal. That being said, it says about as much about the average homosexual in America as all those dead prostitutes in the pacific northwest indicate about the short comings of straight relationships.

Perspective people, perspective.


78 posted on 12/13/2004 1:49:53 PM PST by johnnycap
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
Depends on what the meaning of "generally" is.

xm177e2 - Robberies generally don't end up with the victim tortured to death

xm177e2 tried to make it sound like a stretch to say that the robbery was the motive for assault. The case was made that it happens more often than people want to acknowledge (even if it does not hold to the majority of robberies).

79 posted on 12/13/2004 1:51:16 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

You are missing the point that it is true that robberies GENERALLY don't involve torture. That is 100% irrefutably true.

Nor do most tortures generally involve robbery.

You are losing a good argument by not concentrating on the point made by your antagonists which is not supportive of the victims of SSAD.


80 posted on 12/13/2004 1:52:43 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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