Posted on 12/12/2004 11:27:42 PM PST by Critical Bill
Sources in the Ukrainian intelligence and security community said Dec. 12 it was unlikely that opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko was poisoned by his political opponents. The sources say that if Yushchenko's opponents had decided to poison him, they could have used much deadlier and non-recognizable poisons, which are easily available for secret services in several countries in the world. The sources say that Yushchenko's political opponents easily could have tasked specialized professionals to execute the poisoning in such a way that it would have left no proof of deliberate poisoning.
1845 GMT - Tepttu Vartiainen, the leading scientist from a Finland's main health research institution in Kuopio, told Finnish news agency CTT that dioxin was a bad choice if someone had tried to assassinate Viktor Yushchenko, the pro-Western opposition leader and presidential candidate. The scientist said that dioxin poisoning is easily recognized, and its traces in the body could be found for several years after a person's death. Russian news agency RIAN, referring to the above interview, said Dec. 12 that the who treated Yushchenko in a Vienna clinic, Nikolai Korpan, says that dioxin could not have been the only reason for the health conditions with which Yushchenko was admitted to his Rudolfinerhouse clinic Sept. 10 this year. His symptoms included severe inflammation of the stomach, colon, pancreas and liver enlargement, as well as paralysis of facial nerves.
PING for some common sense conclusion
What else could cause the ailments he has??? In such a short period of time.
What I have been saying on here.
You missed the point - the fact that its dioxin means its unlikely its a hit. "The sources say that if Yushchenko's opponents had decided to poison him, they could have used much deadlier and non-recognizable poisons, which are easily available for secret services in several countries in the world."
Because people suffer from dioxin all the time, right? Pssschh.
"His symptoms included severe inflammation of the stomach, colon, pancreas and liver enlargement, as well as paralysis of facial nerves."
Just one possibility... Fish, which can also contain large amounts of dioxine, and toxins in addition:
Ciguatera Fish Poisoning
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/tmp-pmv/2002/ciguat_e.html
Worldwide about 25,000 cases are reported annually
Ciguatera fish poisoning presents with both gastrointestinal and neurologic symptoms. Symptoms generally arise 1 to 6 hours after eating contaminated fish, and may increase in severity over the next few hours. Typical symptoms include diarrhea, vomiting, abdominal pain, hot-cold sensation reversal, tingling sensation in the mouth or legs, as well as pain or weakness in the legs. The symptoms of ciguatera fish poisoning can be exacerbated by the consumption of alcohol and nuts.
Ciguatera poisoning is usually self-limiting, and signs of poisoning often subside within several days from onset. However, in severe cases the neurological symptoms are known to persist from weeks to months. In severe cases, death may occur.
At this time there are no clinical tests to diagnose ciguatera in humans. However, diagnosis can be confirmed by testing the fish for toxins. Treatment, when needed, is largely supportive and symptomatic.
This is like listening to Dr. Kervorkian opine about euthanasia...
FGS
As for Kool-Aid, Good Old Boy Jim Jones knew how to spike the stuff and he was an amateur!
Let me know how using a useless poison like this points to Russia? Like some Redneck using windex to poison someone's coffee. Russians are not pikers when it comes to posion - remember how the poisoned Khattab with a letter?
On al-Qaeda's number one warrior the Russians kill with a super high tech poison but on this Ukranian next door they use what amounts to windex.
If there was some chicanery, you're presuming they're intent was to kill Yuschenko(sp). Not necessarily so. The almost debilitating effects of dioxin should have taken him out of the race. And dioxin could presumably be explained away exactly as the "security" people are doing......bad fish, inadvertant exposure, yadda yadda.
FGS
For dioxin to do what it did (dioxin is in almost everything including your burnt toast) it has to be in huge amounts.
I can think of better things to knock one out - like rat poison - it thins the blood - can't be detected and makes it seem ou had a stroke.
It is what many think was used to bump off Stalin.
Possible, but I suppose the bottom line is that we don't even know for sure if the dioxin poisoning diagnosis is correct do we? I suspect there's some political intrigue afoot, and I'd also be willing to bet we'll probably never get to see the whole picture.
FGS
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