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Oklahoma City Bombing- Conspiracy?
www.historychannel.com ^ | 12/12/ 2004 | History Channel

Posted on 12/12/2004 10:09:14 PM PST by FBD

Oklahoma City Bombing- Conspiracy?

Poll Online:

Do you think Timothy McVeigh acted alone in the Oklahoma City Bombing?

Poll at www.history channel.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; conspiracy; historychannel; jaynadavis; mcveigh; okcbombing; oklahomacitybombing; wot
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To: FBD

This happened in the Clinton-Reno-Freeh regime. There's
no telling what happened.


81 posted on 12/13/2004 4:29:20 PM PST by RWCon (P)
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To: FBD

Do you think Timothy McVeigh acted alone in the Oklahoma City Bombing?
Yes
5%


No
95%

Very badly worded. He did have help from at least one other person – Terry Nichols. I do believe there were more involved, and that some evidence was covered up by some law enforcement agency.


82 posted on 12/13/2004 4:34:03 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; potlatch; devolve
Jayna Davis' work on John Doe No. 2 indicates he was an Iraqi Republican Guard veteran.

Terry Nichols was in the Philippines when Ramzi Yousef was there.

Nichols and McVeigh (per Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, The Secret Life of Bill Clinton, Regnery, 1997) could not get their ANFO act together without Dennis Mahon the FBI informant's assistance.

Per above, McVeigh reconnoitered with Andreas Karl Strassmeier, German trained in military intelligence who left America unscathed.

On the other hand, Bill Clinton blamed Rush Limbaugh.

Uh, no.

83 posted on 12/13/2004 5:33:06 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: ntnychik

No, sorry. I only became interested after 911, even though I knew there was something to it beforehand. Try Backhoe.


84 posted on 12/13/2004 5:39:12 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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To: saradippity; ntnychik
Look up Nita Nupress....go her FR homepage...look up her links for OKC. ANOTHER gold-mine of info.

MANY MANY FReepers were in on the discussions. And THEY made MORE sense/presented the case MORE convincingly than the gov't/gov't 'experts'/and the lamestream.

When things don't add up or make sense or have WAY too many holes, FReepers have a favorite saying....It doesn't pass the smell test. And OKC STINKS to high Heaven!!!

It irritates me no end when idiots say 'what did Bush know and when did he know it?' The MORE important question SHOULD be...'what did klintler know and when did he know it and WHAT DID HE DO ABOUT IT????'

Perhaps, if THAT question were asked, answered, and ACTED UPON, 9/11 'could' have been avoided.

I'm not familiar with how Ashcroft paid lip-service to McVeigh's death sentence. Can you post a link or an 'article'?

85 posted on 12/13/2004 5:42:55 PM PST by mommadooo3
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To: Safetgiver

In the History Channel documentary, someone told of one of the captured terrorists drawing a picture of McVeigh...or am I mistaken and it was Nichols?


86 posted on 12/13/2004 6:05:25 PM PST by FBD ("You have enemies? Good-That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Churchhill)
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To: Peach

The History channel program didn't mention Jayna Davis' work, and that was disappointing.

I didn't know James Woolsey had said that about Jayna Davis.
I'm not that informed on this subject; people like you on this thread have really helped to bring me up to speed.

Thanks


87 posted on 12/13/2004 6:11:13 PM PST by FBD ("You have enemies? Good-That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Churchhill)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Yes 6%

No 94%

Total Votes: 295

I think we are the only ones voting

88 posted on 12/13/2004 6:13:27 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Joe Boucher

I agree, that TWA explosion just doesn't add up.

As in OKC, there are some things that don't add up, but I don't attribute the conspiracy to sinister govt. plots: I chalk it up to laziness, ineptitude, and cowardice.

If they (govt intel) look into these things, it means they might have to confront foreign govts, go to war, take action. Much simpler to avoid a thorough investigation.

So in a sense it is a coverup...of avoidance.

Regards


89 posted on 12/13/2004 6:19:56 PM PST by FBD ("You have enemies? Good-That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Churchhill)
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To: MeekOneGOP

thanks for that ping Meek. it's an old subject, but given our WOT, I think it has current relevance. Most people who've read up on OKC seem to believe that there was an Islamic terrorist/ state connection. I do anyway! ;)

regards


90 posted on 12/13/2004 6:25:39 PM PST by FBD ("You have enemies? Good-That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Churchhill)
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To: leadpencil1

OKC ping -- relates to today's conversation about Clinton & the 9/11 Commission's lame "Final Report".


91 posted on 12/13/2004 6:25:43 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Freepalogues Rule.)
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To: OKIEDOC

>Personally I think that McVeigh and Nichols had help from several radical groups. Especially the Muslim group in the Philippines.

I also believe that Bill Clinton did nothing because it would have required the USA to take an action that many in the Dimoratic party would not support.< ----OKIEDOC

The gov't had agents there in unmarked black cars, throwing strange hula hoop like objects across the highways when a vehicle crossed. They were in the close vicinty of the Murrah Building. Eyewitness report this on the night before the "bombing". Bomb squads were out the morning of the bombing, prior to. All according to eyewitness reports, newspaper reports and Charles Keys book. Now how bad would it of looked if Bill Clinton did do something but missed it "accidently" or on purpose. Maybe, oh I don't know, to push through gun control legislation. Something the dimwitted oh I mena the Dimoratic party was pushing through at the time. Muslim groups were in large numbers at the time, doing unreported things and still are.


92 posted on 12/13/2004 6:52:00 PM PST by RoseD (Oklahoma)
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To: PhilDragoo; FBD; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; potlatch; devolve
The Oklahoma City Bombing - Proof there were additional explosive charges.

* * * *

Witnesses heard multiple explosions: Experts say Murrah damage not done by truck blast alone


93 posted on 12/13/2004 7:07:28 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: FBD; All
Kallstrom appeared to have had problems sticking with the company line if you watch him carefully. His facial expressions and eyes.
Bill Clinton was the midwife of 9/11 and Bernard Loeb was his assistant. Their lies, duplicity and misdirection left this nation open for attack. We are quite fortunate only 3000 souls were lost. I say that with disgust, with revulsion that I could even define tragedy in those terms.
May God rest their innocent souls of those 3000.
94 posted on 12/13/2004 8:05:34 PM PST by olde north church ("My nostrils have a right to flair, I'm in command." Major F. Burns)
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks for the "PING"!!
This info needs to have more light shed on it and hopefully the History Channel show is but a start...a start to end the Clinton's quest of eight more years!!!

Freepers info is the best...the ties between the Iraqi's and the WTC1, OKC, 911 have been well shown here!!


95 posted on 12/13/2004 9:33:19 PM PST by FlashBack (Faith will not make our path easy, but it will give us strength for the Journey.)
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To: Happy2BMe

why is that info stored at a left wing hemp-pushing kook site? (www.whatreallyhappened.com)

These wackos think Bush stole the election, etc.


96 posted on 12/13/2004 10:58:52 PM PST by FBD ("You have enemies? Good-That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Churchhill)
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To: Happy2BMe

And lo and behold the BATF knew enough to stay away that day--what are the odds?


97 posted on 12/13/2004 11:00:05 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: mommadooo3

Re Ashcroft's "lip service":
Found this on Google:
http://www.s-t.com/daily/05-01/05-13-01/a01wn008.htm


98 posted on 12/14/2004 12:44:19 AM PST by ntnychik (Proud member of the Bush-wazee)
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To: FBD
Look at the documents for their context. If they are genuine (which they appear to be), would you still discredit them just because of where they happen to reside on the web?

Inquiring minds want to know.

99 posted on 12/14/2004 3:19:20 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe

>"Look at the documents for their context. If they are genuine (which they appear to be)..."<

-No happy, all the type fonts remind me of the Dan Rather story. Seriously.

>"...would you still discredit them just because of where they happen to reside on the web?"<

-If a story comes from questioanable sources, be it Dan Rather, or some left-wing kook site that says Bush stole the election, etc, than yes, I will question the source, and it's documents.

Does Jayne Davis have these documents in her book?
Inquiring minds want to know! ;^D


100 posted on 12/14/2004 8:05:52 AM PST by FBD ("You have enemies? Good-That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Churchhill)
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