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Targeting the Salvation Army
CNN | 12/12/04 | DBCJR

Posted on 12/12/2004 8:10:00 PM PST by DBCJR

The store chain Target has decided this Christmas to ban the Salvation Army from placing their bell ringers outside their stores to solicit funds for the wonderful work they do for our nation's most vulnerable. In my opinion, giving to the causes that the Salvation Army serves is a lot more about the Christmas season than the merchandise I buy from Target, so we are banning Target from our shopping until they change their policy banning the Salvation Army. If it takes them until next year, or the next, that is entirely Target's call. Join me in this effort by not shopping there, and encouraging your friends to do likewise. Then communicate this to Target at:

http://www.targetcorp.com/targetcorp_group/contactus/contact_general.jhtml

This is what I said:

"My family regularly shops at Target, yet the news that Target has banned the Salvation Army from soliciting donations this Christmas will change that. Like you, the Christmas season is their major source of revenues. They do an extraordinary amount of good for the nation's most vulnerable. The damage Target has inflicted upon that effort cannot be measured. I will not shop at Target until they change their policy toward the Salvation Army, and I will encourage my friends to do likewise. Please let me know when you change your policy."

Please pass this on & Merry Christmas!


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KEYWORDS: bellringers; christmasban; salvationarmy; soliciting; target
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Thank you, Jennifer, for the response. I checked your corporate giving at the local level and it only offers grants of $1,000-3,000, hardly a replacement for the revenues they would raise with their bell ringers. Your guidelines are too restrictive to replace the revenues you have withdrawn.

The Salvation Army is not just another charity. Their work with the homeless, alcoholics, needy families, and victims of catastrophic events is unparalleled. Furthermore, Target fails to see that their bell ringers have become part of the Christmas tradition, as evidenced by their appearance on movies and TV shows. Banning them is bad business, bad PR during your make-or-break season. Not a good move. I'm doing business where the Christmas spirit is better demonstrated. There is something about the "giving season" that's not the same without the Salvation Army bellringers.

Dan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Target Guest Relations" To: "Dan Cross" Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 4:23 PM Subject: Inquiry to Target Guest Relations

> Subject: The Salvation Army > > Dear Dan, > > Like many nationwide retailers, Target Corporation has a long-standing "no > solicitation" policy that it consistently applies to all organizations > across all of its stores. > > We receive an increasing number of solicitation inquiries from non-profit > organizations and other groups each year and determined that if we > continue > to allow the Salvation Army to solicit then it opens the door to any other > groups that wish to solicit our guests. While some of our guests may > welcome the opportunity to support their favorite charity or cause, > allowing these organizations to solicit means that Target would also have > to permit solicitation by organizations whose cause or behavior may be > unacceptable to our guests. > > Wenotified the Salvation Army of our decision in January 2004, well in > advance of the holiday season, so the organization would have time to find > alternative fundraising sources. Target also asked the Salvation Army to > look at other ways that we could support their organization under our > corporate giving guidelines. To this date they have not provided a > proposal > that fits those guidelines. > > Local Salvation Army chapters can apply for grants through their local > Target stores. For decades, many non-profit organizations across the > country have successfully worked with Target in this manner. We are asking > the Salvation Army to work with us in the same exact manner as the other > groups and organizations who ask to solicit our guests. > > This decision in no way diminishes Target Corporation's commitment to its > communities. Target has one of the largest corporate philanthropy programs > in America, donating more than $2 million per week and hundreds of > thousands of volunteer hours each year to the communities in which it does > business. > > Sincerely, > > Jennifer Hanson > Target Executive Offices > guest.relations@target.com

1 posted on 12/12/2004 8:10:01 PM PST by DBCJR
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To: DBCJR

I too have put my "Boycott" on Target stores until they allow the Salvation Army's Bell Ringers back at their stores. I do a lot of shopping at Target because it is so close to where I live. BUT, I will not allow this anti-Christian bigotry to continue unabated. It is time for all Christians and Conservatives to put their money where their mouth is an not shop at stores that decide to not celebrate CHRISTMAS as CHRISTMAS, but rather as Santa Claus Day. I am sick and tired of being the target of anti-Christian bigotry by stores, the media, the "entertainment" industry, The Anti Christian Liberites Union, People for the communist way, and the people for the separation of church from America crowds.


2 posted on 12/12/2004 8:18:04 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: DBCJR

http://target.com/target_group/community_giving/store_solicitation.jhtml

See their site for their "pat" answer about solicitations, etc. What a pile of crap. I too refuse to shop Target now because of their anti-Christian policy and have let them know why.


4 posted on 12/12/2004 8:22:22 PM PST by Santana (Proud aunt of niece serving in Iraq)
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To: DBCJR
Target isn't the only one. I'd heard that Home Depot was doing the same.
DOES anyone know of a LIST of the stores that won't allow the Salvation Army on their premises?
5 posted on 12/12/2004 8:30:38 PM PST by solitas (Mystic G4, 10.3.6)
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To: DBCJR

I RECIVED THAT VERY SAME FORM LETTER. FROM THE SAME
PERSON. I MENTIONED WALMART HAD FOUND A WAY TO WORK IT OUT. BUT MY LETTER WAS THE SAME WORD FOR WORD AS YOURS.


6 posted on 12/12/2004 8:32:47 PM PST by cfhBAMA (Alabama Republican Party)
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To: cfhBAMA

I received the form letter , too.
I asked the same question.
There really is no good reason for their policy.


7 posted on 12/12/2004 8:47:39 PM PST by MaryJaneNC
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To: DBCJR

Thanks for posting this. I have been meaning to voice my complaint to Target. Here is what I said:

I was once a regular shopper at Target, visiting it several times a week. Several weeks ago when I heard about your decision to ban the Salvation Army, I in return made a decision to ban Target. I feel the reason the Salvation Army is no longer allowed is due to it being a Christian organization. Your anti-Christian stance has cost you my business. You may give to the community, however your position in giving in the name of God has been heard loud and clear. Please do not bother to send me your form letter I will not have time to read it. I will be too busy shopping at Wal-Mart.

No Longer Friends,
X. XXXXX

P.S. My friends and family members have also banned Target.


8 posted on 12/12/2004 9:00:25 PM PST by myvoice
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To: DBCJR

I shop at Target as well, and when I received "coupons" in an email, I sent a reply that indicated I would not be using them and why. My hope is that when they realize their "regulars" are upset for their Scrooge-like behavior (in my email to them) then the policy will change.


9 posted on 12/12/2004 9:00:37 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: texasborn1960

Why isn't their as much outrage over China?

Ok,we will split up...I'll take Target,you take China.


10 posted on 12/12/2004 9:02:05 PM PST by loboinok (GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
USA SALVATION ARMY

The Salvation Army is a real charity, unlike the Red Cross, whish supports terrorists and anti-Americanism.

11 posted on 12/12/2004 9:04:28 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Iam1ru1-2; DBCJR

I, too struck Target from my list upon hearing they'll no longer allow Salvation Army bellringers. I will also write them so they specifically know why they've lost me as a customer. Perhaps other stores will hesitate to follow Target's cowardly path, when they see the impact of Christians who have taken their business elsewhere. Oh, and it's "Merry Christmas" from me. I've banned Happy Holidays, Seasons Greetings, and XMas from my vocabulary.


12 posted on 12/12/2004 9:11:07 PM PST by ntnychik (Proud member of the Bush-wazee)
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To: solitas

We dont have them at our Walmart supercenter this year either....


13 posted on 12/12/2004 9:11:28 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy

Our Walmart checkout chicks wish us a "Happy Hollidays" ...they dont want to offend anyone but Christans (whose Holliday it is...in the first place)...


14 posted on 12/12/2004 9:13:18 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
Our Walmart checkout chicks wish us a "Happy Hollidays" ...they dont want to offend anyone but Christans (whose Holliday it is...in the first place)...

For the last few years whenever anyone wishes me Happy Holidays I thank them politely and explain that I don't celebrate "Holiday." I then wish them a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

15 posted on 12/12/2004 9:25:20 PM PST by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: DBCJR
Why doesn't everybody just write a big fat check out to the Salvation Army, then they would have their funds, everyone could shop where they pleased, and we could Zot this thread and have a Blessed Christmas.
17 posted on 12/12/2004 9:49:01 PM PST by SEVENCROSS (Get over it!!!!!)
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To: An American In Dairyland

I reply with "Happy Holy Day to you too."


18 posted on 12/12/2004 9:56:46 PM PST by pajama pundit
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To: SEVENCROSS

Why don't you stay out of threads that obviously bother you so much and the rest of us will do as we please.

Merry Christmas!


19 posted on 12/12/2004 10:04:30 PM PST by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: SEVENCROSS

because it's so much more fun to threaten boycotts. Oh, and post threads fifty times on the same topic.

Even with the loss of target (target told them they would be ending the SA's sole exception to their 'no solicitation' policy nearly a year ago) the salvation army is still short of bell ringers. I suggested to the boycott happy freepers they could step up and volunteer their time to ring the bells - but apparently target is the only one required to make sacrifices for the salavation army. According to freepers, their donations of a buck here and there are enough to qualify them to condemn target.

BTW, target donates $2 million PER WEEK to charities, including the salvation army. They also donate unsold merchandise to the salvation army. And they put themselves at risk of lawsuits by allowing the SA an exception to their otherwise blanket 'no solicitation' policy for years.

But some freepers are setting a great precedent - you can help out a charity for years, and continue to do so with money and merchandise- but as soon as you have to change your policy to protect your business, we'll call for a boycott -facts be damned.

Heck of a way to get more businesses to stick their necks out to help a charity...


20 posted on 12/12/2004 10:24:43 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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