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This is very interesting, I never have understood why Goldwater made the statements he did about abortion.
1 posted on 12/12/2004 2:19:17 PM PST by wagglebee
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Goldwater was never the same after his landslide loss to LBJ in which Blacks shifted en masse from the Party of Lincoln over to the Party of FDR. His mind was affected, and he never really recovered.

2 posted on 12/12/2004 2:24:43 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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If the Court said it’s okay, then it’s okay.

This logic is the road to ruin for a free people.

4 posted on 12/12/2004 2:41:26 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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He was getting old, plain and simple. I have noticed that some older people (75+ crowd) start saying things and taking positions contrary to what they had always supported. Some become downright kooky as a prelude to dementia. Unfortunately, I am going through this with my Dad right now who is showing signs of Alzheimers. He was always a staunch Republican, but the last election he voted Democratic 'cause he thought Bush would eliminate his Social Security.


6 posted on 12/12/2004 2:48:23 PM PST by rbg81
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bump


7 posted on 12/12/2004 2:48:53 PM PST by blackeagle
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If I remember, Goldwater started having a "relationship" with a young and attractive woman, don't remember names. I think he fell prey to one of the oldest traps known to man; a woman. Back in my earlier days the slang expression was "pussywhipped". Perhaps that is a little strong, but it is descriptive.
11 posted on 12/12/2004 3:41:54 PM PST by det dweller too
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"After marrying his second wife, Goldwater, and his family, took odd stands concerning campaigns in Arizona pitting pro-life candidates versus those who support abortion -- so odd that Goldwater would eventually betray his own party and support a Democrat over a Republican."

I think both of Goldwater's wives were pro-abortion. He did not seem conservative toward the end, most thought it was the influence of his wife. Perhaps there is something in the water. I might as well apologize on behalf of AZ for both he and McCain at this time. Sorry.


20 posted on 12/12/2004 4:49:56 PM PST by KTpig
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I read Goldwater's biography and what struck me was how stupid the man was.

Yes, he was an anticommunist and helped revive the conservative movement. But the movement was created at the grass roots level and he was the only leader available.

He never liked Reagan and supported Nixon up and till he resigned. His '64 campaign was idiotically run and his vote against the civil rights act (well intentioned) was stupid.

As TR once said of another senator "He meant well, feebly"
21 posted on 12/12/2004 4:54:44 PM PST by rcocean
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When I read Buckley's articles, there's at least once that I have to go to the dictionary. I thought I had this one whipped then word "exegete" go me in the last paragraph. I wonder if he does this on purpose.

If the Court said it’s okay, then it’s okay.

I hear a lot of this and it concerns me a little. All the Supreme Court can do is rule on a question according to the constitutions, laws and customs of the people. It did this in Dred Scott, regardless of Lincoln's reasoning, which was correct but only indicated a minor flaw in the law regarding the transport of slaves.

What the Supreme Court can't do is rule on the mysteries of life, like when a developing child gains a human soul. It did this in Roe.

Therefore, if the Supreme court says its so, there is a definite limit to its jurisdiction.

23 posted on 12/12/2004 5:10:25 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.


37 posted on 12/12/2004 7:24:06 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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"his defense of Supreme Court decisions involving abortion, gay rights, and the separation of church and state."

It could have had somthing to do with the fact Goldwater's daughter Peggy had an abortion, Goldwater's grandson was a sodomite and Goldwater was at best a nominal Christian. He was also a class A ingrate, as witness his nonendorsements of Governor Reagan in 1976 and 1980, when most other Republicans (Dole, Connally, Rhodes) were not taking sides.

46 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:19 PM PST by Meldrim
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