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To: BobL
By the way, if you want to see how much of a disaster this type of scheme is, take a look at the California SH 91 toll lanes (an identical concept). They now charge over 50 cents per mile at peak times. If others want the government telling them when to drive, and then punishing them big-time for their employers' working hours, more power to them - but not me.

CA 91 had managed toll lanes added inside the still existing FREE LANES. The variable pricing is to try and maintain speeds of 55mph in the toll lanes by raising prices whenever the lanes start to bog down. Since there is always the parallel freeway option, how the heck is the gov't telling someone when to drive?

It is basic supply and demand, and when the demand is so high that it overwhelms capacity, these ADDITIONAL toll lanes are a good idea to provide another alternative. The driver then has a choice of continuing to travel for free or pay a premium to bypass the congestion. That's called capitalism.

But since you claim to have spoken on camera at a meeting about toll roads 4 years ago, obviously all this has been pointed out to you before, yet you choose to exaggerate and lie about it. Tells me all I need to know about you.

62 posted on 12/12/2004 9:44:45 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"It is basic supply and demand, and when the demand is so high that it overwhelms capacity, these ADDITIONAL toll lanes are a good idea to provide another alternative. The driver then has a choice of continuing to travel for free or pay a premium to bypass the congestion. That's called capitalism.

But since you claim to have spoken on camera at a meeting about toll roads 4 years ago, obviously all this has been pointed out to you before, yet you choose to exaggerate and lie about it. Tells me all I need to know about you."

Getting a personal. Oh well. I'm not sure how you link my opposition to what was they were doing to Katy to the TTC plan (since they're several years apart), so I'll that one go.

Now, you may call it capitalism when the government gets into punishing people who don't obey their edicts on how to live their lives. I tend to have another term for it...


65 posted on 12/12/2004 9:48:29 AM PST by BobL
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To: Diddle E. Squat
One other comment - I suggest you look back at the system used on SH 91 a bit more.

Look where the incentives are. The government now profits from congestion - the more congestion, the more revenue. The government loses 2 ways by widening these highways. Add a lane and it costs money, add a lane and it reduces peak tolls. This is the fundamental flaw in the system. It is inherently unstable and will be (and is already in California) a mess.
69 posted on 12/12/2004 9:52:59 AM PST by BobL
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