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Retro games offer an alluring respite
Chicago Tribune ^ | 12/7/04 | Eric Gwinn

Posted on 12/11/2004 4:53:11 PM PST by qam1

Today's video games are so deep, complex and involving that you don't play them, you live them. For people who already have a life, that's a problem.

Games now can take 24 hours or more to complete, because gamemakers want to make sure you feel you're getting your 50 bucks' worth from playing a game that cost $10 million or more to make. What happened to the Zen-like simplicity of "Pong," the uncomplicated mad dash of "Pac-Man"?

Actually, they're coming back.

Atari recently released the Flashback, a slim TV-top box stuffed with 20 games from the 1980s. Gamemakers Midway and Nintendo now offer Vol. 2 of their respective retro game compilations. "Xbox Live Arcade" brings in an Internet component so retro gamers with broadband-enabled Xboxes can compete against one another.

The differences between retro games and today's games are simple.

"Older games are reaction-based," notes Adam Sessler, co-host of a cable TV video game review show, "X-Play." To play, all you have to do is destroy the aliens or escape the monsters or jump at the right time, and you don't have to be inside anybody's head.

"There is no learning curve, no intimidation," says Michael Wolf, Xbox public relations manager, "just the opportunity to pick up and play with anyone at any skill level."

This year's hit story-driven titles "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" and "Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal" include old-school-style mini-games that are heavy on action and light on plot, a nod to the popularity of this kind of simpler entertainment and a break from the intensity of the main game's mission.

There's clearly an audience -- these games have become staples of the Internet. Sites such as Yahoo!, AOL and MSN draw hundreds of thousands of gamers,

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To: eddie willers

My all time favorite.


81 posted on 12/18/2004 7:34:08 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways (but you must follow the instructions carefully))
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To: asgardshill
I'm too deep into GTA: San Andreas to take the time now. But thanks - I will track it down.

I think my buddy is getting me GTA: London (I only have the first Playstation) for Christmas. I love the driving games too, I have "Need For Speed" and I like the "outrunning the cops" the best even though I get caught everytime, although I almost had them beat in a Camaro. The Camaro ain't as fast as a LAmbourghini Diablo but a lot more controllable. B-) One time, I banged up the Diablo so much that I arced and sparked down the road when I drove it, I think Lambourghini should have called it the "Hale-Bopp" instead of the Diablo since I resembled a comet going down the road. >B-) I did some cool "bootleg" moves though. B-) What scares me is that I try to drive in real life like I do there, accelerating in the middle of a turn and so on. B-)

I'd like to see a version where you have classic cars like a 1965 Ford Galaxie, GTO, Barracuda and so on.
82 posted on 12/18/2004 7:40:54 AM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: killjoy
Have you played "pop'n pop"? It rocks!

My favorite though is Mr.Do - I love to turn it up whem I'm mad at the other half. The music drives her nuts.

83 posted on 12/18/2004 2:56:55 PM PST by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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To: Benrand; rdb3
I'd love to have a Missile Command console in my apt.

Spent MANY, MANY quarters in that sucker.

I felt exactly the same way about Tempest; it was the only video game that ever took more than a buck's worth of quarters from me. Many, many more quarters than that.

So a few years ago, I bought one on eBay. An original, early-80s, standup-console Tempest arcade game. In very good shape; very little paint damage.

Sits near my Ms.Pac-Man cocktail and the pinball machines.

Bliss.

84 posted on 12/18/2004 3:04:00 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: centexan
I miss the old style pinball machines. Pinball was one game that was ruined by technology. I'd love to have one of the old 70's style machines.

If you're serious about that, FReepmail me and I'll try to dig out some links for you. The pinball-loving gang is still out there and incredibly active.

If you want to restore a beat-up pin, there are resources and parts to do so, and you'll save a lot of money. You can spend $500 - $7,000 on a machine depending on title and condition. Stern Pinball has been back in business for a few years; they've been the only manufacturer since 2001, and you can buy brand-new-in-the-box machines from them.

I own four pins, so I know your lust.

85 posted on 12/18/2004 3:11:39 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: qam1

Asteroids


86 posted on 12/18/2004 3:24:44 PM PST by HP8753 (Can I be a member of the Pajamahadeen if I sleep in the nude??)
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To: Slump Tester
Have you played "pop'n pop"? It rocks!

Nope, I will have to check it out. I am still addicted to Elevator Action. Old habbits die hard.

87 posted on 12/18/2004 3:24:45 PM PST by killjoy (My kid is the bomb at Islam Elementary!)
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To: killjoy

Pop'n Pop takes a pretty decent video card to play smoothly. The only rom I have for it is the jap one, so I can't read the options. You may have to turn "stereo" off to get it to run smooth. I have a PIII 1.1Ghz with a GeForce 2. It runs a lot better on this card than it did on my last one!


88 posted on 12/18/2004 4:04:03 PM PST by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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To: killjoy

Pop'n Pop takes a pretty decent video card to play smoothly. The only rom I have for it is the jap one, so I can't read the options. You may have to turn "stereo" off to get it to run smooth.


89 posted on 12/18/2004 4:13:02 PM PST by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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To: qam1

Oh my God! You are the legendary QAM??

Too strange...

And Defender was the game that I played endlessly.
After that, Stargate Defender.

I still have a working Atari 5200 with a ton of games, and the new, vastly improved, keypad/joysticks.


90 posted on 12/18/2004 4:16:07 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: jmc813
> and even 20 years later, old Mom can keep it going for 15 minutes

Damn, do I want to reply to that! 8^)

"Got nothing good to say? Come sit by me."

91 posted on 12/18/2004 4:20:51 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Hank Rearden
I bought one on eBay. An original, early-80s, standup-console Tempest arcade game.

The shipping must have killed you. But it would be nice to have a basement full of working arcade machines. (Even if I had to rewire the basement for the increased power requirements).

92 posted on 12/19/2004 11:51:27 AM PST by asgardshill ("We march by day and read Xenophon by night.")
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To: qam1
>Retro games offer an alluring respite

Now is a great time
to do a re-issue of
"Balance of Power."

93 posted on 12/19/2004 11:55:44 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: asgardshill
The shipping must have killed you. But it would be nice to have a basement full of working arcade machines. (Even if I had to rewire the basement for the increased power requirements).

As I recall, the shipping wasn't too bad - I think it was truck-freighted for $125 or so from a couple thousand miles away.

When I built the basement, I think I installed two 20-amp circuits for the game room. So far, that serves two arcade video games and four pinballs with no problem - they don't draw as much power as you'd think; the four pins don't come close to maxing out even one circuit. But I wish I'd dropped a couple more circuits there, just in case. Cheap to do when framing.

94 posted on 12/19/2004 1:52:49 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: qam1
I love my MAME emulator software. I can play "Berzerk", "Asteroids", "Warlords", "Space War" or any one of a dozen other original arcade style games...all on my PC and all free.

I am still rather hooked on Doom 2 though. Love to play Death Match over the home LAN with my kids. Sometimes Mom even joins in.

95 posted on 12/19/2004 1:55:39 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I could design a USB gaming console that had all the goodies, such as a ball and spinning wheel, for a PC to run those old games. Bet they would sell too!

There's a whole internet gaming sub-culture devoted to creating and building entire luxury consoles that run the original games on ROMS taken from the origonal chips. Some of them are quite elaborate.
This one is a homebrew:


96 posted on 12/19/2004 2:07:41 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: qam1

http://www.hanaho.com/products/ArcadePC/index.html

You all have GOT to check these out! I started off with a cocktail table and have since added a full size upright cabinet. I have over 3,800 games on each one! All the neighborhood kids (Dad's) love it. I have ALL the classic games from when I was a kid as well as sooooo many others. I told my son that I don't expect to hear "Dad, can we buy a new game?" for about 10 years.

The cocktail table may end up over at Grandma's house.

The owner of the company, Conway Ho, is a great guy to talk to about the industry and trends. Tell him BigDaddy_TX says hi.


97 posted on 12/19/2004 2:10:53 PM PST by BigDaddyTX
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To: SamAdams76
http://www.hanaho.com/products/ArcadePC/index.html Over 3,800 games on these. They're PC based so I use mine for web/internet access, email and PC games too.
98 posted on 12/19/2004 2:28:52 PM PST by BigDaddyTX
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To: Hank Rearden
I got real good at Tempest too, it was maybe my favorite game for a long while.

Another that I liked a lot which not many others did was Xevious.

I had a friend who spent a helluva lot more time than anyone I knew at the Machine Shop arcade in South Hills Village and he mastered MachIII. Spent HUNDREDS of dollars doing it...

99 posted on 12/20/2004 1:15:55 PM PST by Benrand
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To: Benrand

My son just beat me at Galaga and set the hight score on our machine. He's 8 and enjoys playing the classics on this system. I was on a Berzerk kick one summer. It makes me feel pretty good, now that I own the machine, when I hear that "Coin detected in pocket!" "Kill the humanoid".

My son kicks my you know what on all of the Street Fighter type games on this thing. I just send him to his room. :-)


100 posted on 01/10/2005 3:24:03 PM PST by BigDaddyTX
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