Posted on 12/11/2004 11:49:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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The Register resists the needed clarion call for citizens' relief and the longed-for restoration of independence. Indeed, the Internal Revenue Service breaks our laws when pursuing taxpayers, compiles secret, voluminous and threatening files on each citizen, and, when bringing us up on charges - in the sole exception in our entire legal system - it declares we are guilty from the start. The prosecution doesn't have to prove our guilt. No, if we don't prove that we're innocent, we're automatically guilty. Ah, the level playing field of American justice!
The IRS is vicious. It's unwieldy. It's a tyrannical monster, completely out of control. The panic, the long line of filers at 10-minutes-to-midnight on tax-filing eve, the threats of audits, and especially the results of those audits are all proof that we are intimidated - not free - Americans. It ought to be the libertarians who are standing out front in a noble quest for righting this horrible wrong!
Unless and until the IRS is shuttered - getting rid of the whole federal income tax system whether it's our present progressive tax or the flat tax (they're equally culpable) because they're administered by the IRS - there is no tax reform, just another Band-Aid on the same old system that perpetuates the same old fear-inducing intimidation.
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There is a better way: a constitutional taxation system I call the States' Proportional Tax that removes the federal government from the taxing business, except for those taxes specified in our Constitution. It literally insulates taxpayers from the federal monster. Each year a two-person billing section at Treasury (110,000 IRS employees now furloughed and the $3 billion IRS budget only a memory) would bill each state treasurer for his particular state's tax payment.
(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...
National Consumption Tax bttt - remember folks, it's not a regressive tax on the poor because people are reimbursed monthly for essentials. www.fairtax.org
Whoo boy, that would be more hard than overhauling the CIA and the State Department. These people have your tax records, and are known to be vengeful. Which is the very reason why the cause is worth the price.
I like this idea but it will be replaced by the State Tax monsters.
State Tax Monsters would be closer to home and, hence, easier to lynch.
Tax PING
It's an intriguing idea but I don't think Congress (Republican or rat) will give up the power. The Federal budget is mostly interest on the debt, military spending and social security. These are things that the states would now have to collect money for and I'm not sure that the states want that either.
Thought you might enjoy this article.
Go to http://www.fairtax.org/ and read up on it there. You'll get more accurate info than I can supply off the top of my head. But essentially you get a reimbursement check each month from the fed. gov't. for groceries and clothing. I would encourage you to take a look at it. John Linder of Georgia has a bill in the House.
"Unless and until the IRS is shuttered - getting rid of the whole federal income tax system whether it's our present progressive tax or the flat tax (they're equally culpable) because they're administered by the IRS - there is no tax reform, just another Band-Aid on the same old system that perpetuates the same old fear-inducing intimidation.
Even a national sales tax is not total reform. Yet if there has to be a federal tax, let it be a national sales tax since it would reduce the scope of our government's control to only the retailers among us. "
Also from the article.
They are right. To have real tax reform, the abolishion of IRS and income taxes are essential.
National Consumption tax would be total reform. It abolishes the IRS and gets the government out of the business of monitoring how much money people make.
I think there does have to be a federal tax. Even if we strip the federal gov't. down to the only two things it should be doing - lighthouses and military - you've still got to fund lighthouses and military. That won't come from donations.
Getting the Fed out of states rights issues (regulation over & taxation thereof)
abolishing the IRS would naturally follow
''It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class -- except Congress.''
- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar
How does the middle class get royally screwed? Specifically, what are your objections?
You just know these brave conservatives will do the right thing and sacrifice personal power at great political risk! In fact, I'm holding my breath starting right ... now.
I literally am Laughing Out Loud. Your post brought tears to my eyes and I'll be smiling all day. Thanks!
My core objection is that by separating taxation from income we are in effect imposing a tax on assets. Whether, or not you earn a cent; whether your pay is reduced by globalism to a fraction of what it was; you will continue to feel the full burden of the tax until you are forced to relinquish all of your remaining assets. The net tax continues until you have reached the spending/consumption pattern of the government declared level of poverty. This is nothing but a back door to full expropriation and all out communism.
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