[PoorMuttly]

"You don't need a gun to be safe at Weyerhaeuser,"

I'm sure that is true for everyone who lives in the factory....well....kinda sure, anyway.

[mad_as_he$$]

What kind of idiot let's the company search his car?

What about those who do start shooting at the workplace THEY could be the only armed person - bad news to me. At Columbine the ONLY guy - a Deputy Sheriff - who had a chance to stop it fired of a coupla rounds and then "went for help".

Can't count on the company, the cops, or anybody else but your self.

[Clemenza]

I'm as pro-gun as they come, but I still believe you have a right to control what is brought on your property, whether its cell phones, rifles, or stinky greaseburgers that certain colleagues of mine love to eat at their desks.

[Still Thinking]

Just two days after a gunman jumped on to a stage in Columbus, Ohio, and shot dead a heavy metal guitarist and three others before himself being shot dead, it might seem surprising to hear that elsewhere a state is extending gun owners' rights.

Um, no it's not, unless you're a pantywaist liberty snatching liberal.

Now they fear the Oklahoman ruling will encourage the powerful gun lobby all over America to try to roll back the reforms.

Techically, I think the word "reform" is supposed to refer to when you make something better, not worse.

[LibKill]

My Second Amendment Right supercedes (crushes) all private property rights.

If you invite me onto your property, you invite my rights with me, including my GUN.

If you want no guns on your property, invite noone.

BTW, employees do NOT give up their rights for pay, except for US Military (US v. Feres, 1957).

[TASMANIANRED]

My first question is how did the company find out that he had a gun in his locked car?

If he told someone he was breaking company policy then shame on him he deserves firing.

If the company searched his car this is another situation. Did they search it with or without consent and do they have a written policy about this.

If they had a written policy about search of vehicles then he should have parked off their property and walked in.

If it wasn't written I'd sue.

[Redbob]

"Paul Viollis, the president of Risk Control Strategies, is appalled at the new law. Every week there are 17 murders at the work place across America, and most of them involve guns, he says."

And in virtually all those workplaces, it was already against the law to have a gun.
To a rational person, this might suggest the law is not working.

But then, we're dealing wtih the victims of hoplophobia, here, and they're NOT rational.

[stevio]

We need to keep up the fight. I know I've been a little lethargic of late. Keep up the good fight Mr. Mullens

[Widows Son]

One wonders how many of these job site murders would take place if the perpetrators knew that other workers were armed. I am thinking fewer.
Another part of this story that bothers me is that it says the gun was found behind the workers seat in his car, why were they searching his car in the first place?
And if the company bans me from having a lawfully carried gun in my vehicle, does that mean they are responsible for my safety to and from work? Are they saying I do not have the right to protect myself during my drive to and from work? If I worked at a company with such a policy, and something happened to me where I was injured in any way where having a gun would have prevented it, I would be suing that company to the nth degree.

[MEGoody]

Having a gun in a locked car is not my employer's business. Now, if I carry it on my person into the office, that's a different issue.

[Modernman]

No one could have predicted that two years later he and his backers would claim an extraordinary revenge - a law allowing employees to keep guns in locked cars on company property.

Looks like these guys have learned well from liberals: if you don't like your employer's rules, go whine to the government and have the government force the employer to change those rules.

[Poser]

Property rights do not trump the right to protect yourself. The business does not protect you while you are in your car travelling to and from work.

A good compromise between the rights of the property owner and the rights of the individual is to require the gun owner to lock his gun in the car.

In any case, if the gun owner agreed not to bring guns into the parking lot as a condition of employment, he should not have brought it to work.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[TLI]

Paul Viollis, the president of Risk Control Strategies, is appalled at the new law. Every week there are 17 murders at the work place across America, and most of them involve guns, he says.

"It's the most irresponsible piece of legislation I've seen in my 25 years in the business," he said. "I would invite anyone who'd allow people to bring firearms to work to write the first death notice.

"The argument that emp-loyees should be allowed to bring firearms to work because they'll be locked in the car is so absurd it barely merits a response."

Sounds like Viollis can hear the sound of his cushy little business based on anti-self defense - anti-firearm - anti-2nd amendment laws being blown away by the rights of the people being rebuilt.

[Fruitbat]

Hey Boss, can I have next week off?

(lock and load sound)

:D

[FFIGHTER]

The Employer has the right to set conditions of employment and access to property. The Employee can agree to these conditions or can find another job. The Employers rights are not violated since they can terminate the employ of the employee if the employee choses not to comply with the conditions of employment, and the employees rights are not infringed upon, since the employee is not forced to work for the company and can offer his services elsewhere. Neither party is forced into any contractual obligation of employment, it is mutually agreed to and such agreement if entered into can be terminated by either party.

[RightWinger]

I have a Concealed Weapons Permit.
The company has a rule against guns on company property.
I consider my vehicle an extension of my personal property and I keep a loaded gun locked in the vehicle.
If I kept my gun at home, I wouldn't be able to protect myself going to & from work.
The company has never searched a vehicle and I would never allow them to search mine.
I've been working there for 25 years but I can always find another job if need be.
My personal safety if far more important to me than a silly company rule!

[Joe Hadenuf]

These companies are out of control. If they don't want people to bring guns they own, in vehicles they own, to work, they company ought to be made to sign a 100 percent guarantee of the employees safety.

Of course, they wouldn't do that, as they cannot guarantee their safety at work or in the employee parking lot.

[Joe Hadenuf]

It's OK for the business owner to bring in a gun and keep it in his desk, or wear it on his belt if he wishes. But the peon tax paying employees must remain unprotected.

[O.C. - Old Cracker]

I can carry anything I want to in my vehicle, and as long as it does not violate state or federal laws, there isn't a dang thing any private company can say about it.