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To: SLB

Been spewin my 2 cents already on the issue.......:o)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1298645/posts?page=9#9



Humvee is a jeep replacement.......how many jeeps have been armored up over the past wars ? Zip, nada , none ! Our gun jeeps (M151's) had a pedistal mounted M60 and a passenger mounted M60. Now one can say oh yeah well we road into battle on horseback back when but that doesn't make the issue of not enough hardened humvess any better....I agree....but !

We're trying to replace tactics with a false sense of security IMO. Polidiots need to let our folks engage and eliminate the threat vs existing in a hardened facility or vehicle among the threat.

A hardened humvee will not stop an IED or even the old PG-2 series of RPG's much less the PG7 series and it's improvements over the years. We're attempting to run a gauntlet on a daily basis . Destroy the gauntlet. If troops are attacked every day on a standard resupply route then counter ambush ops need to be increased along with snipers moved into the areas to eliminate those planting IED's or civilians moving with any weapon other than a handgun for personal protection.

I am and will always be of the opinion that any modern military conflict should be over in less that 96 hours. We need to kick ass, break all the infastructure or power, water, communications and sewage. Blow the bridges, airfields and ports then leave. Walk away at that point. Let other communist/terrorist /socialist regimes clean up their own mess.

If they attack America or Americans again we'll be back and will whack em again and again and not play nation building for years at great cost to americans over a decade or so.

America payed a dear price on 9-11 and doesn't need to keep paying. Make our enemies pay......until we get medevil on them and theirs we subject ourselves to such long term misery and loss of our loved ones. Thats my rant on the matter, right or wrong it's just my opinion.

Stay safe !


33 posted on 12/11/2004 8:43:34 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Perfectly correct, they shouldn't even know we came.

We have the ability.

Why we're doing the old fashioned two-step, I'd like to know?

35 posted on 12/11/2004 9:11:13 AM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Squantos

We're trying to replace tactics with a false sense of security IMO. Polidiots need to let our folks engage and eliminate the threat vs existing in a hardened facility or vehicle among the threat.



Well, again I say it that 'false sense of security' kept all 165 soldiers in my MP company alive for 13 months. Worst we suffered was a gunner had a minor shrapnel wound, some concussions, that is all.

The M-1114's are fantastic, and I would take on any time.


80 posted on 12/12/2004 12:17:12 AM PST by SFC Chromey (Did 13 months in Iraq and of COURSE I voted for BUSH!)
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