Posted on 12/10/2004 12:43:13 PM PST by Rosenkreutz
Europe's far right parties are considering forming a pan-European movement. Filip Dewinter, the leader of an extremist separatist party in Belgium, told the Vienna-based News on Thursday that they were considering creating an extreme right grouping in the European Parliament. This would encompass Austria's Freedom Party, Italy's Lega Nord, France's National Front, the Dutch New Right Party and Dewinter's own Vlaams Belang - all strongly anti-immigrant. Dewinter said he is considering Jörg Haider, leader of Austria's Freedom Party, to be the head of the movement. "I've had several talks with Jörg Haider and have the feeling that he's interested in this cooperation," he said. "I'm proposing to Jörg Haider that he be the top candidate of our movement." Haider became well known in Europe when, after gaining 27 percent of the vote in the 1999 elections in Austria, his party joined the center-right government -- resulting in EU sanctions against the country. If the talks come to fruition, the coalition would stand in the European elections in 2009.
Of course, far-right in Europe these days basically puts them in Arlen Spector country.
The French one is anti-market and anti-Israel.
It also may be the largest in terms of voting strength.
No, you're supposed to think jack boots and swastikas. At least that's what the far left wants you to think. Just shut up and don't say a word about the growing Muslim presence in Europe.
Therefore they want, at minimum, a more federalized Belgium with more local decision-making.
The Italian party feels that Northern Italy is being sucked dry through taxes to support unproductive, crime-ridden, cripplingly unionized Southern Italy. They want more local decision-making, autonomy or even secession.
That's what is meant by separatist.
I agree... problem is, what alternative is there in Europe? The only change in direction coming from the mainstream parties is out of fear of losing their base to the far right...
And the only party which could with justice be described as anti-Semitic is the French one.
You may be right. I'm more than a little scared of Europe, one way or the other. They seem bound and determined to return to Fascism one way or the other.
>It seems to imply that people for controlled immigration are categorically motivated by racial prejudice.
That's unfortunately how the left-liberal majority in Europe see things too... Germans have a particularly large chip on their shoulder in this regard (wonder why?)
Wow. I didn't even realize the Europe had anybody on the right, let alone the far right. Does this mean they are a little more conservative than Ted Kennedy?
Well, you learn something new everyday.
That's not true. Some of his comments were twisted to look that way. One of the most common things said about him is that he "praised Nazi employment policies" when in reality, he said that the socialist party in Austria was so biased in hiring state employees that even the Nazis sometimes hired people who weren't Nazis for state jobs, but not the socialists.
This was not praise of Nazism, but unfavorably comparing his socialist opponents with the Nazis.
At the very least he is a world class Holocaust denier.
Again untrue. He has never denied the Holocaust. He said that not every Austrian who fought Stalin in the 1940s was a war criminal.
Calling him an anti-Semite or a Holocaust denier is a very serious charge, and while he has tried to downplay Austria's culpability and shift blame entirely onto the Germans, he has never pretended that history didn't happen.
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It also seems the "left" in Europe is anti-Isreal. Thus if the "far right" in Europe is antisemitic, then does Israel have any friends at all over there?
Albeit from the perspective of someone fairly ignorant of these groups, it seems wideawakes explanation rings true. In our own country falsely accusing the other side of being racist, and twisting words to support the false allegation has become axiomatic to being thought of as left wing.
Jörg Haider is a latent heel-clicker plain and simple. He spends way too much time cosying up with aging SS-men and NPD friends from across the border. His comments in the past have been unmistakably soft on Nazism.
And anybody who grew up speaking the German language and uses the word "Straflager" instead of "KZ", well partner that's somebody who hasn't had the Hitler-gene sufficiently exorcised from their inner-being.
Conservatives in America should concentrate on working with Christian-Democrat parties in Europe (CDU, etc) and stay away from nutball extremists like Haider and LePen.
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