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To: Ken H
How can you say that? I said several times that Scripture dooms the Khmer victims to Hell. I'm having a devil of a time getting people to admit that.

I agreed with you. let me redress. So what. so what the Khmer victims go to hell. If they go, they were destined by God to go there at the beginning of time.

Does that mean the Khmer victims chose their fate, or were they just not elected?

Only God can choose our fates, which he did at the outset of creation.

Raycpa:How do you know God exists? more importantly, how do you know there is an afterlife.

I don't. You asked and I told you what I thought. Am I 100% sure? No.

Why do you think so ? What evidence do you base your thoughts on ?

Zoning laws and homeowners associations would help, but good luck finding a lawyer to draw up the papers.

Good one. But do you see the problem ? If we are basically evil and we have an infinite amount of time on our hands, we will eventually cause as much havoc as Hitler. our hearts need to be changed from the inside out. We can only do this be giving our hearts to God. God already knows which of us will do so, he knew from the beginning of time.

407 posted on 12/15/2004 6:33:15 AM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: Raycpa
So what. so what the Khmer victims go to hell. If they go, they were destined by God to go there at the beginning of time.

Fair enough. Does the same apply to Jews murdered by the Nazis?

Why do you think so [that God exists]? What evidence do you base your thoughts on?

I don't think I could cite any hard evidence. It's simply a belief. For example, something had to cause the big bang. It just seems more logical that there would be a creator rather than not.

I have also spoken with people who underwent a near death experience. I take that as anecdotal evidence, not proof. You might say it's a judgement call...

If we are basically evil and we have an infinite amount of time on our hands, we will eventually cause as much havoc as Hitler. our hearts need to be changed from the inside out.

I have no problem with you believing we are evil. I disagree.

But from my understanding of scripture, you are a forgiven sinner when you go to Heaven, but still a sinner. Why would you not continue to sin in Heaven, whereas unforgiven sinners would, if God decides to let them in?

409 posted on 12/15/2004 11:01:17 AM PST by Ken H
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