Posted on 12/09/2004 10:13:49 AM PST by qam1
DONE
Later
LOL. Back atcha. FR Gen Xers are no more twits than FR boomers are, and with some exceptions, the Gen Xers are less likely to support government programs.
It's the Gen Xers and boomers that AREN'T on FR that are the primary problem we both have.
Nite CG.....check the shed.
LOL. I'm almost ready to say too bad, cause it was getting damn entertaining for both of us. Guy next door came by cause he heard me laughing at our insults flying back and forth. You give as good as you get, old timer. :)
And I am no RAT. Might be a little more oddball in my conservatism, maybe more radically so than most on FR, but I'm no fan of judicial expansionism or federal overreaching. Don't worry--much as we might bitch about having to carry the taxes the left stuck you and me with, most of the FR kids are all right.
"the Gen Xers are less likely to support government programs."
If you read my post #216, it will show you how the average FReeper boomer feels about gov't programs.
68s were a little bigger than I like, even though I generally like a bigger car as I'm 6'5". I prefer just to move the rails back in a `65--and up to 65 you can modify emissions any way you want in any state in the Union, too!
Don't worry. I don't reflexively judge people on their birthdate. But on threads like this, the lines get drawn pretty quickly by people trading blame. I suppose the only method of stopping that problem is to accept that we all will be part of the solution, and figure out a fair way to apportion the inevitable hit. Of course, that might take us back to the same can of worms. :)
I prefer to have friends who can be fierce adversaries in an argument and then not walk away angry. Guess that's why I disliked law school. Too many liberal pouters screaming about how I couldn't argue for such and such, because it was morally wrong to be on that side. Obviously, whether it's morally wrong in someone's view doesn't mean there's nobody who can argue that position, but they and many folks here think that simply ARGUING a position makes you morally evil for opposing them.
And I am planning. Part of the reason I exiled myself from Florida is taxes. When I come back to Florida, it will be with my retirement funds set. Not until.
It was this post
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1260568/posts
Bush was up by 8 in the 30-39 group, This was the Rasmussen poll
Here is what he has on his site
Generation Y (18-24 yr.olds): Kerry 59% Bush 40%
Generation X (25-39 yr olds): Kerry 50% Bush 48%
Generation Jones (40-49 yr.olds): Kerry 48% Bush 51%
Baby Boomers (50-59 yr. olds): Kerry 52% Bush 47%
Mature Generation (60 and older): Kerry 51% Bush 49%
I think he is fudging the numbers, He is using a poll from the NEP which didn't use those age brackets
Quote "These special age cross-tabulations of the NEP Polling highlight the importance of looking separately at actual generations of voters. The standard NEP Polling Report uses the arbitrary age categories of 18-29, 30-44, 45-59, and 60+, splitting Generation Jones in half. By lumping half of these conservative Jonesers in with the liberal Xers, and the other half with the also liberal Boomers, an important story of the 2004 election was hidden.
Cross-tabulations of polling from Rasmussen, Gallup, Zogby, Pew, ICR, and AP-IPSOS, released two weeks before the election, showed that Generation Jones women were the only generation of women who had consistently vacillated between Bush and Kerry in the six months before the election".
So basically picking and choosing polls BEFORE the election and pushing more liberals into Gen-X & the "True" Baby Boomers to get a result that Gen Jones matters most. (It must of pained him because reading his site he seems to lean liberal)
I particularly dislike being told we as a nation owe someone tax money. I paid taxes, too, but I don't claim to deserve the right to loot the general fund when I retire. I do deserve to keep the money I earned in the first place, and that is what my kids deserve, and they will not be subject to the crushing tax burden most people take for granted if I can do anything about it.
I dislike this Gen Jones stuff because I like Strauss and Howe's delineation and their explanation of how generations usually work. They went with twenty year cohorts that had shared experiences AND arrived at the ability to have kids at the same time, going back to the first generation here! Certainly there are people born on the cusp, and people who do not follow their generational stereotype. But the Gen Jones idea is just another way to attempt to invalidate the generational stereotype by breaking it down more. And in this case, it's a way for a liberal to say "WASN'T GEN X and WASN'T BOOMERS who voted Bush--it was THESE weirdos!"
In reality, it was ANOTHER particular group that voted for Bush: Americans who love their country.
"In reality, it was ANOTHER particular group that voted for Bush: Americans who love their country."
Thank you.
So we both agree, I take it, that first impressions aren't always accurate. :)
Anyway, it's nice to have some posts on this thread, given the number removed by the mods. LOL.
I am impressed with ourselves. We did it single-handed. The new greatest generation.
Dang. I missed a mega-flame war :-)
But I agree this Generation Jones thing is silly, Because by his account the Baby Boomers are 8 years, Gen Jones 10 and Gen-X 16 years long which makes no sense. I prefer the parental definition (Post #90) because the majority parents shape the majority of kids in any given year, But there is never going to be a perfect system for IDing Generations because the people at the end of one generation and the beginning of another are always going to be more similar to each other then the ones at the other end of their own generation.
OH and BTW, Since you are relatively new to the ping list you probably missed this one way back, Never call a Baby Boomer Gramps
Later Brother!
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