Posted on 12/09/2004 9:22:17 AM PST by Nascardude
Edited on 12/09/2004 10:05:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
[Chattanooga Times Free Press military reporter] Pitts, Lee
We're waiting to hear who the reporter was who set this up.
It might be handy to have the exchange posted here for easy reference. I found it here at The Corner:
Q: Yes, Mr. Secretary. My question is more logistical. Weve had troops in Iraq for coming up on three years and weve always staged here out of Kuwait. Now why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of scrap metal and compromise ballistic glass to up-armor our vehicles and why dont we have those resources readily available to us? [Applause]
SEC. RUMSFELD: I missed the first part of your question. And could you repeat it for me?
Q: Yes, Mr. Secretary. Our soldiers have been fighting in Iraq for coming up on three years. A lot of us are getting ready to move north relatively soon. Our vehicles are not armored. Were digging pieces of rusted scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass thats already been shot up, dropped, busted, picking the best out of this scrap to put on our vehicles to take into combat. We do not have proper armament vehicles to carry with us north.
SEC. RUMSFELD: I talked to the General coming out here about the pace at which the vehicles are being armored. They have been brought from all over the world, wherever theyre not needed, to a place here where they are needed. Im told that they are being the Army is I think its something like 400 a month are being done. And its essentially a matter of physics. It isnt a matter of money. It isnt a matter on the part of the Army of desire. Its a matter of production and capability of doing it.
As you know, you go to war with the Army you have. Theyre not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time. Since the Iraq conflict began, the Army has been pressing ahead to produce the armor necessary at a rate that they believe its a greatly expanded rate from what existed previously, but a rate that they believe is the rate that is all that can be accomplished at this moment.
I can assure you that General Schoomaker and the leadership in the Army and certainly General Whitcomb are sensitive to the fact that not every vehicle has the degree of armor that would be desirable for it to have, but that theyre working at it at a good clip. Its interesting, Ive talked a great deal about this with a team of people whove been working on it hard at the Pentagon. And if you think about it, you can have all the armor in the world on a tank and a tank can be blown up. And you can have an up-armored humvee and it can be blown up. And you can go down and, the vehicle, the goal we have is to have as many of those vehicles as is humanly possible with the appropriate level of armor available for the troops. And that is what the Army has been working on.
And General Whitcomb, is there anything youd want to add to that?
GEN. WHITCOMB: Nothing. [Laughter] Mr. Secretary, Id be happy to. That is a focus on what we do here in Kuwait and what is done up in the theater, both in Iraq and also in Afghanistan. As the secretary has said, its not a matter of money or desire; it is a matter of the logistics of being able to produce it. The 699th, the team that weve got here in Kuwait has done [Cheers] a tremendous effort to take that steel that they have and cut it, prefab it and put it on vehicles. But there is nobody from the president on down that is not aware that this is a challenge for us and this is a desire for us to accomplish.
SEC. RUMSFELD: The other day, after there was a big threat alert in Washington, D.C. in connection with the elections, as I recall, I looked outside the Pentagon and there were six or eight up-armored humvees. Theyre not there anymore. [Cheers] [Applause] Theyre en route out here, I can assure you. Next. Way in the back. Yes.
Huh?? .. How was it planted??
Or anybody else from his news agency, for that matter.
Remember way back when a Democratic memo was leaked from the Intelligence Committee detailing how they were going to use the committee and it's information for political gain? Remember? And what was the result?
The Dems succeeded in turning attention away from the memo and to the "absolutely terrible theft of private Democratic materials". They went after the messenger and not the message.
Well, let's go after the messenger (reporter) and not the message (the Rumsfeld reaction).
I'm not sure about this, to tell the truth. This could easily be a bogus email.
It doesn't make any different which reporter did it. They'd all do it if they had a chance. I am sooo sick of the MSM. As my father used to say: "They're all a bunch of bums!"
The reporter that the soldiers were with set us up the bomb....
not surprising...
but the soldier who asked the question will probably have some serious questions to answer from his C.O.
Well, well........everybody whose surprised, raise your hand.
Oh,man.If that is true.......
But, by the same token,I feel personally that Rumsfeld's response was inappropriate.You don't make cavalier comments such as he did to a gathering of soldiers at wartime.(Now,before the flaming starts,let me say that I am not siding against Rumsfeld.The man has a tough job.But the comments he made do not bode well, morale-wise, with the troops.That's all i'm saying.)
Rush is doing his usual 'I knew it' routine. When Rush has a thought, he usually says it and doesn't hold back. This is his way of making him seem smarter than the rest of us. He did a similar thing when my brother talked to him on the air a few years ago. He said, "I was waiting for a call like yours".
I tried to point out yesterday that his was part of a MSM propaganda campaign. Yet I received vile and hateful responses. Boy are people gullible. The "worried" soldier was a plant. I sure as H wouldn't want to be in a fox hole with him.
Full transcript
It doesn't matter now.
MSM have already gotten the mileage out of it.
Reporter: "I have been trying to get this story out for weeks- as soon as I found out I would be on an unarmored truck- "
Otheriwse, he didn't give a s**t?
From post 18
:-)
So all the troops didn't "erupt in cheers" to the questions asked?
So I guess this is all a lie.
RUMSFELD SET UP; REPORTER PLANTED QUESTIONS WITH SOLIDER
Chattanooga Times Free Press reporter Edward Lee Pitts is embedded with the 278th Regimental Combat Team, now in Kuwait preparing to enter Iraq, and is filing articles for his newspaper. Pitts claims in a purported email that he coached soldiers to ask Defense Secretary Rumsfeld questions!
From: EDWARD LEE PITTS, Chattanooga Times Free Press military reporter
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2004 4:44 PM
To: Staffers
Subject: RE: Way to go
I just had one of my best days as a journalist today. As luck would have it, our journey North was delayed just long enough see I could attend a visit today here by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. I was told yesterday that only soldiers could ask questions so I brought two of them along with me as my escorts. Before hand we worked on questions to ask Rumsfeld about the appalling lack of armor their vehicles going into combat have. While waiting for the VIP, I went and found the Sgt. in charge of the microphone for the question and answer session and made sure he knew to get my guys out of the crowd.
So during the Q&A session, one of my guys was the second person called on. When he asked Rumsfeld why after two years here soldiers are still having to dig through trash bins to find rusted scrap metal and cracked ballistic windows for their Humvees, the place erupted in cheers so loud that Rumsfeld had to ask the guy to repeat his question. Then Rumsfeld answered something about it being "not a lack of desire or money but a logistics/physics problem." He said he recently saw about 8 of the special up-armored Humvees guarding Washington, DC, and he promised that they would no longer be used for that and that he would send them over here. Then he asked a three star general standing behind him, the commander of all ground forces here, to also answer the question. The general said it was a problem he is working on.
The great part was that after the event was over the throng of national media following Rumsfeld- The New York Times, AP, all the major networks -- swarmed to the two soldiers I brought from the unit I am embedded with. Out of the 1,000 or so troops at the event there were only a handful of guys from my unit b/c the rest were too busy prepping for our trip north. The national media asked if they were the guys with the armor problem and then stuck cameras in their faces. The NY Times reporter asked me to email him the stories I had already done on it, but I said he could search for them himself on the Internet and he better not steal any of my lines. I have been trying to get this story out for weeks- as soon as I foud out I would be on an unarmored truck- and my paper published two stories on it. But it felt good to hand it off to the national press. I believe lives are at stake with so many soldiers going across the border riding with scrap metal as protection. It may be to late for the unit I am with, but hopefully not for those who come after.
The press officer in charge of my regiment, the 278th, came up to me afterwords and asked if my story would be positive. I replied that I would write the truth. Then I pointed at the horde of national media pointing cameras and mics at the 278th guys and said he had bigger problems on his hands than the Chattanooga Times Free Press. This is what this job is all about - people need to know. The solider who asked the question said he felt good b/c he took his complaints to the top. When he got back to his unit most of the guys patted him on the back but a few of the officers were upset b/c they thought it would make them look bad. From what I understand this is all over the news back home.
Thanks,
Lee
EDWARD LEE PITTS FILED STORY ABOUT http://www.greene.xtn.net/index.php?table=news&template=news.view.subscriber&newsid=117612
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