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MINETA'S BEEN ASKED TO STAY-JUST ON FOX- I'M SICK!
FOX NEWS ON TV | 12-9-04

Posted on 12/09/2004 6:55:41 AM PST by STARWISE

Oh my God ... how .. how could this be?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: ohioWfan

Wild accusation?

Give me a break. It's obvious President Bush welcomes "diversity".


161 posted on 12/09/2004 11:24:48 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader
I AM giving you a break.

I'm asking you to explain your accusation, and back it up with facts.

Explain to me that the President doesn't just look for highly qualified people regardless of skin color, but rather is just being PC and seeking 'diversity.'

Explain how Condi Rice, Alberto Gonzalez, or anyone else were chosen to be PC, and not because they are long time, trusted advisors who happen to be minorities.

And use facts.

(P.S. "It's obvious" is NOT a fact).

162 posted on 12/09/2004 11:42:05 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: JustAnAmerican
Tax cuts = Conservative
Strong military = Conservative
Pro-Life = Conservative
Personal Responsibility = Conservative
Pro U.S. Sovereignty abroad = Conservative

Bush. Facts.

163 posted on 12/09/2004 11:46:21 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

He is a cabinet member BS! Words mean things!


164 posted on 12/09/2004 11:55:27 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

Actions speak louder than words in my book.


165 posted on 12/09/2004 12:00:18 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: STARWISE
C'mon people, sit down and take a deeeeeeeeep breath.
The reason Dubya keeps Mineta around is that he tells extremely funny internment camp jokes!

Ok seriously - this SUCKS. Norm is a nincompoop! There is no upside to having this PC twit in the cabinet. If any gubmint Dept-Agency will get us killed through incompetence in the future it'll be his.

166 posted on 12/09/2004 12:03:04 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

It's going to be interesting here on Freep when President Bush starts pushing greater restrictions on campaign financing and political speech and if/when he pushes for a new AWB.

Half the people here will say "Don't worry, President Bush knows what he's doing" and the other half will just look on and shake our heads in amazement...

Ed


167 posted on 12/09/2004 12:07:27 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Condor51
Please explain to me how Mineta is "incompetant."

I've read this whole thread, have seen that word out there, but as of yet haven't seen the evidence to back it up.

168 posted on 12/09/2004 12:08:04 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Sir_Ed
You have an active imagination about the future.

Please back your assumptions up with evidence to support them (e.g that he will push for a new AWB ban).

You may ridicule those of us who trust the President more than we trust you, but he has proven over and over again that he can be trusted.

You, on the other hand, have proven only that you can say silly things.

169 posted on 12/09/2004 12:12:05 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Sir_Ed
if/when he pushes for a new AWB.

Since he let the last one sunset, what makes you think he'll be pushing for an AWB?

170 posted on 12/09/2004 12:13:59 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: ohioWfan

They underestimate the President and the administration at every single turn, about as much as the Democrats and the mainstream press do.


171 posted on 12/09/2004 12:17:12 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: Dave S

From another thread:

The man who said this...


Kroft: Are you saying, at security screening desks, that a 70-year-old white woman from Vero Beach, Florida, would receive the same level of scrutiny as a-a-a Muslim young man from Jersey City?

Mineta: Basically, I would hope so.


...is staying in the Bush administration.


Flashbacks:


Rich Lowry on Mineta, January 2002:


Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta may not necessarily be the least impressive Bush cabinet secretary — there's competition there — but he is certainly the most dangerous.

When President Bush the other day said that he would be "madder than heck" if his Secret Service agent had been ethnically profiled, he wasn't just playing to the media or seeking to assuage the agent's feelings, he was enunciating administration policy: no profiling on the basis of ethnicity or national origin whatsoever.


As I write in the latest National Review, this is an instance of a piety of our racial politics — no "racial profiling" — triumphing over experience and commonsense. Islamic terrorists will necessarily be Muslims, and probably from the Arab world.


Not to try to single out young males with these characteristics for extra attention — more extensive searches and questioning — is folly. It ignores, among other things, the successful Israeli experience securing El Al from attacks.


But adopting something along the lines of the Israeli system would require a tough-mindedness, and instead of tough-mindedness, we have Norm Mineta. On the issue of profiling, Mineta's ignorance appears to be nearly invincible.


Michael Smerconish, testifying before the Transportation, Treasury and General Government Subcommittee Oversight Hearing on Passenger Screening and Airline Authority to Deny Boarding, June 2004:


Time and again Secretary Mineta has made clear his refusal to consider personal characteristics in the war on terrorism. In particular, I note his Statement to the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights on October 12, 2001, and his speech in Rochester, New York on that same date. Secretary Mineta was active in the aftermath of 9/11 in dictating to the airlines his view of the world. In the months after 9/11, the DOT issued several memos to the airlines, warning them against “profiling” passengers. Consider that on October 12, 2001, the DOT issued a memo titled “Carrying Out Transportation Inspection and Safety Responsibilities in a Nondiscriminatory Manner...”

Peggy Noonan, June 2002:


Mr. Mineta has received many awards for his sensitivity to ethnic profiling. Good for him, but I'd personally give him an award if he'd begin to act like a grownup and recognize that his childhood trauma shouldn't determine modern American security policy.

Ann Coulter, April 2004:


In June 2001, as Mohamed Atta completed his final "to do" list before the 9/11 attacks ("... amend will to ban women from my funeral ... leave extra little Friskies out for Mr. Buttons ... set TiVo for Streisand on 'Inside the Actors' Studio'...."), Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was conducting a major study on whether airport security was improperly screening passengers based on ethnicity. As Mineta explained: "We must protect the civil rights of airline passengers." Protecting airline passengers from sudden death has never made it onto Mineta's radar screen.

A few months later, after 19 Muslim men hijacked U.S. airplanes and turned them into Weapons of Mass Destruction on American soil, Mineta was a whirlwind of activity. On Sept. 21, as the remains of thousands of Americans lay smoldering at Ground Zero, Mineta fired off a letter to all U.S. airlines forbidding them from implementing the one security measure that would have prevented 9/11: subjecting Middle Eastern passengers to an added degree of pre-flight scrutiny. He sternly reminded the airlines that it was illegal to discriminate against passengers based on their race, color, national or ethnic origin, or religion.


Mineta would have sent the letter even sooner, but he wanted to give the airlines enough time to count the number of their employees and customers who had just been murdered by Arab passengers...


Glenn Reynolds, August 2002:


DO I REALLY WANT TO IMPEACH NORMAN MINETA? Some people have emailed with that question. And the answer is -- Hell, yes!

But what they really mean, I think, is: do I really think that impeaching Norman Mineta is the way to do something about the idiocy of air security? That's a bit more complicated.


It's certainly possible to impeach a cabinet official -- they're "officers of the United States," and hence subject to impeachment. But it never happens, because a cabinet official who's that unpopular will be fired by the President first.


Mineta isn't the whole problem, of course. He's a symptom as much as a cause, a symptom of a bureaucratic mindset in which -- it must be said -- he participates fully. (And according to Gary Leff, who is all over this story, James Loy, the new TSA chief, is no better).


But since everyone knows that Mineta personifies the very mindset that is causing the problem, and since "Impeach Norm Mineta" makes that point nicely, it's not a bad slogan. And judging by the glee with which a colleague of mine grabbed one of those bumperstickers, it reflects a widely shared sentiment.


Mineta will probably withstand the blogosphere-generated juggernaut, of course -- especially as Republicans won't want to attack a member of the Administration, and Democrats won't want to attack one of their own. (Yeah, Mineta's a Democrat, actually). But there's nothing like bumperstickers calling for impeachment to bring home the unpopularity of a politician's actions. So get one, and display it proudly!


Looks like the Bush administration still hasn't gotten the message. Maybe I'll wear the bumper sticker on my forehead the next time I'm on TV...


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172 posted on 12/09/2004 12:27:09 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Your're right, BS. Actions speak louder than words and this Maneta geek needs to take a hike!

The embodiment of the lack of security is Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

Usually, even reasonably well-informed Americans can't name the secretary of transportation; and if they can, it's usually bad news. Norman Mineta is a nightmare. This racist, affirmative action hustler still seeks revenge against white people, whose nail clippers he confiscates, because sixty years ago a white official confiscated his baseball bat.

Mineta has set his band of incompetent, foreign, high school dropouts — aka air security screeners — loose to harass the least suspicious-looking white travelers, while ignoring suspicious-looking Middle Easterners. That is, when the now federalized screeners aren't nodding off on the job, or looking on blankly, as passengers carry on all manner of illegal weapons.

Why do you stick up for this incompetent weasel? He's not a relative is he?

173 posted on 12/09/2004 12:32:04 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: ohioWfan

Signed CFR = Lib
added 400 billion+ medicare bill = Lib
Never saw a spending bill he did not like = Lib
Wanted Illegal alien control measures removed from intel bill = Lib.

5-4=1 = RINO

FACTS.

If he makes me eat my words in 2005 then I will admit being wrong. The illegal-Alien pandering from Bush is my biggest Peeve, we shall see if he lives up to his word and proposes a good illegal-alien enforcement bill. If he comes back with that amnesty garbage, all bets are off.


174 posted on 12/09/2004 12:40:41 PM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: ohioWfan
If this guy is the complete idiot as portrayed here, then the President wouldn't keep him on.

Sorry, but I think that's a logical fallacy (denying the antecedent?). "The President would fire Mineta if he is an idiot; the president didn't fire Mineta, therefore Mineta can't be an idiot."

Hey, Bush does a lot of good things. This just isn't one of them...and it doesn't mean Mineta isn't an idiot.

175 posted on 12/09/2004 12:41:12 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: JesseHousman
Why do you stick up for this incompetent weasel? He's not a relative is he?

No, he's not a relative of mine. Here's an idea, rather than just accusing him of being an incompetant weasel, why not back that charge with some facts.

176 posted on 12/09/2004 12:43:53 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: JustAnAmerican

By your yardstick, Reagan was a RINO.


177 posted on 12/09/2004 12:46:43 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Here's an idea, rather than just accusing him of being an incompetant weasel, why not back that charge with some facts.

The facts include evidence of Mineta stonewalling on the arming of pilots, as well as Mineta's refusal to consider any profiling during airport searches.

I can understand the argument again the latter (even if I disagree with that argument), but I fail to understand how anyone could support a man who won't allow pilots to defend themselves and their passengers as a last line of defense.

If you can show me where I'm wrong, I'd be open to persuasion.

178 posted on 12/09/2004 12:51:03 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: JustAnAmerican
President Bush is NOT a RINO.

He is not conservative in every area, but neither are the majority of Republicans.

I am a conservative Republican, which means that most Republicans fall to my left in many areas, but that does NOT make them RINOs.

Stop using false terms, and discussion can be more productive.

179 posted on 12/09/2004 12:53:17 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: NittanyLion
The facts include evidence of Mineta stonewalling on the arming of pilots

Congress stepped in and allowed it, and Mineta was right in refusing to consider racial profiling. Remember Richard Reid, the shoebomber? He certainly didn't have olive colored skin.

180 posted on 12/09/2004 12:55:41 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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