Posted on 12/09/2004 4:07:23 AM PST by Snapple
One former CIA official told NEWSWEEK that [Porter Goss' aide]Murray leaned on him more than once to declassify information so he could use it to "embarrass the Democrats." Murray was irritated when the agency declined.
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When Democrats on the committee asked the CIA for information, Murray would cut them off, reminding the agency that only requests backed by the Republican majority should be honored. "He was just impossible," says one staffer who dealt with him. "He was sarcastic, snide and had this uncanny ability to push people's buttons."
This is so bogus. The fellows at the CIA have such thin skin. Someone hurt their feelings and now that someone has to pay.
This Kostiw not only was a shoplifter, he reportedly had a poligraph that was questionalbe when asked about his overseas assignments.
Excerpt from posted article:
The hostilities began last month, when Goss tried to install a former CIA analyst named Michael Kostiw as the agency's executive director, the No. 3 spot. Someone—likely a CIA official who opposed Kostiw's appointment—leaked an embarrassing tidbit to The Washington Post: years earlier Kostiw had been accused of shoplifting. It was enough to derail Kostiw's appointment. The sabotage infuriated Murray, who stormed into the office of the CIA's chief of counterintelligence, a respected undercover official known as "Mary." According to two people familiar with the encounter, Murray told her the leaks had to stop, and put her in charge of making sure they did. If there were any more damaging leaks about future Goss appointments, Murray warned her, "I am going to hold you personally responsible." Mary's boss, Michael Sulick, and Sulick's boss, Stephen Kappes, confronted Murray. "Look, don't treat us like we're Democratic staffers on the Hill," Sulick told Murray, according to a source familiar with the meeting. Murray responded by ordering Kappes to fire Sulick. Kappes refused. Instead, both Sulick and Kappes resigned last week. The men received a five-minute standing ovation from CIA employees.
The CIA is an agency belonging to the DNC, we should close the whole place up and start fresh.
I don't know much about Murray. But, we do know from the Clinton years that such arrogant, abrasive, badgering, swaggering, and snidely aristocratic people do exist.
Maybe the game plan is to make the careerists so miserable they quit or retire. I doubt they can be fired.
I am going to contact the special prosecutor and tell him some things.
Smells like fish that's been setting out in the sun to me...
Murray is a Republican. But he should be fired.
Maybe he should even be subpoened for trying to force the CIA to leak for domestic purposes.
What's your axe to grind?
What makes you think you're going to tell him anything he doesn't already know?
No. The CIA for years told the truth. The truth was embarrassing to both Clinton and Bush.
In 1999 the CIA published information about Al Qaeda wanting to drive airplanes into the Pentagon. Clinton did very little.
After 9-11 the Military had no plan for attacking Afghanistan immediately and dithered. The big lie was we had to "make sure" this was Al Qaeda.
This was just a big lie. The truth is that the military wasn't ready to roll that night to defend our country.
This is ridiculous because the CIA knows tons about Afghanistan from helping fight the Russians there.
Al Qaeda had attacked American embassies and military for years. Everyone knew Al Qaeda did 9-11.
The CIA was always telling where Al Qaeda bases were.
But the CIA doesn't make these decisions. Presidents do.
and you are going to tell the prosecutor exactly what? That Mr. Murray is a bad guy? That Porter Goss needs to be fired?
I seriously doubt anything you say will influence this investigation in any way.
The reasons why we love Rumsfeld and Cheney are all the reasons why we ought to be suspicious of this Murray putative clown running for village idiot. I know almost nothing about the details of this present situation at CIA, but I can tell you that one of the biggest problems in Washington is former congressional staff who find themselves running agencies on behalf of their political bosses. These are guys who rose to power the Monica route (degrading acts to curry favor with elected officials) and not the Rumsfeld / Cheney route of actually being successful running real things.
The solution to a problem caused by turning the government over to Clinton political groupies is not to turn the problem over to Republican political groupies. The Republican solution is to put real men in charge who have proven themselves doing real things. You decide which category Murray falls into.
That excerpt doesn't sway me toward your stated point.
A leak occurs (and I notice the excerpt says 'accused', not 'convicted'). Said leak pisses off one of the guys in charge of getting this organization reformed. He applies a little authority/responsibility. "You are now responsible; you have the authority and the permission of the NEW CIA DIRECTOR to make sure the leaks STOP. It's your responsibility now."
'Respected intelligence official's' bosses start whining.
(As an aside, respected intelligence officials, if you don't want to be treated like democrat staffers, stop ACTING like democrat staffers!)
Boss #2 gets pissy, and forgets he's arguing with his Directors right hand man (bad choice, that). Boss #1 refuses order from Director's right hand man to fire #2.
At this point, their resignation is all but assured. The new director, acting through his agent, has given an order. They chose to be disrespectful and combative, as opposed to, for example, taking their case to Mr. Goss.
Of course, I could be DEAD WRONG, since that' just MHO, gained from reading this post/excerpt.
This should be one of the least political groups in the government, otherwise they will work against each other in the same building and the rest of the worlds intelligence agencies will just laugh at them. Which is what has been happening....
Leave the furniture everything else get new...
Kind of like that standing ovation the UN workers gave to Kofi????
"When Democrats on the committee asked the CIA for information, Murray would cut them off, reminding the agency that only requests backed by the Republican majority should be honored."
Well, DUH! Every time Democrats acquire intel information, they use it to harm the war effort and the country as a whole. Don't tell them ANYTHING!
Did you get a chance to read the article. It doesn't even come close to saying what is alleged here. This is a buch of Dumocrat Hill-staffers bitching and moaning. But i especially liked the Brain drain thing. With brains like these (9-11 and Iraqi intel) God help us.
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