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DNR, Hmong debate how to spread respect in wake of shootings
Shawano Leader ^ | 12/8/2004 | AP

Posted on 12/08/2004 5:29:34 PM PST by PjhCPA

MADISON (AP) -- Hmong leaders pleaded for more help from the state to educate Hmong hunters on regulations, as they brainstormed Tuesday on ways to defuse racial tension and help their people earn respect in the aftermath of the North Woods slayings.

The session was held a week after Chai Soua Vang, 36, from St. Paul, Minn., was charged with shooting six white hunters to death and wounding two others Nov. 21 after Vang trespassed on their land in Sawyer County.

Kou Xiong, the state Department of Natural Resources Hmong liaison, told a group appointed by Gov. Jim Doyle to handle Hmong immigration he is the only one in the agency that deals directly with the Hmong and he can't educate the approximately 14,000 Hmong hunters that take to Wisconsin's woods.

"I can't do it alone," he said.

Thai Vue, a task force member and associate executive director of the La Crosse Area Hmong Mutual Assistance Association, shook his head. He said the DNR has to pump more resources -- especially more bilingual staff -- into educating his people on hunting regulations.

"I'm scared," he said. "You can't reach out to people to this degree."

Doyle appointed the Hmong Resettlement Advisory Task Force earlier this year to help the state absorb about 3,000 new Hmong refugees expected to arrive by spring. The task force's meeting Tuesday was its first since the slayings, which came on the second day of the nine-day gun deer season.

Chai Soua Vang allegedly told police the hunters he killed hurled racial slurs at him and fired a shot after they found him in their tree stand and ordered him off their land. All eight hunters who were shot were white.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; hmong; vang; wihunters
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1 posted on 12/08/2004 5:29:35 PM PST by PjhCPA
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To: Ladysmith

ping


2 posted on 12/08/2004 5:30:23 PM PST by PjhCPA (Armed with what?.....SPITBALLS!!!)
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To: PjhCPA; Iowa Granny; ohioWfan; Petruchio; SJackson; Rytwyng; Dr Snide; ozaukeemom; Graybeard58; ...

Wisconsin Hunters Ping


3 posted on 12/08/2004 5:32:39 PM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: PjhCPA

What is it about private property these people don't understand?


4 posted on 12/08/2004 5:32:57 PM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: PjhCPA

That's the freaking solution???

To hire more bilingual staff to educate 'Hmong' hunters? To not massacre people?

Am I missing something?


5 posted on 12/08/2004 5:33:02 PM PST by TFine80
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To: TFine80

My thoughts exactly


6 posted on 12/08/2004 5:35:45 PM PST by PjhCPA (Armed with what?.....SPITBALLS!!!)
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To: Iowa Granny

Have you taken over the pinging for Laydsmith?


7 posted on 12/08/2004 5:36:24 PM PST by PjhCPA (Armed with what?.....SPITBALLS!!!)
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To: TFine80

How are they obtaining firearms newly arrived in this country???


8 posted on 12/08/2004 5:37:11 PM PST by cyborg ( Hy verkwik my siel; Hy lei my in die spore van geregtigheid, om sy Naam ontwil.)
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To: PjhCPA

I understand this particular man has been in the states for quite some time, years in fact. I don't think this is the first time he went hunting, I would imagine that he is well aware of private property and such so I really don't think that education is the problem.

Having said that, why doesn't the Hmong community hold it's own information meetings on issues like the to insure that new comers understand property rights in the USA.

I do know that a Russian immigrant I worked with said to her it is weird, in Russia all places are public, here land along the rivers etc. alot of it is private, she called it strange, and to her it probably is. (tho I do wonder exactly how public the places the 'elites' use are...)


9 posted on 12/08/2004 5:38:55 PM PST by tickles
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To: PjhCPA; Ladysmith

Ladysmith asked me to assist her with the ping list. When I saw your post I thought I would alert folks to it.


10 posted on 12/08/2004 5:40:44 PM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: tickles

My mother hasn't been able to get a good answer on whether private property is really private in the USA. She wonders this every time she pays the property tax. If government can take away your land, it's not really yours is it?


11 posted on 12/08/2004 5:40:48 PM PST by cyborg ( Hy verkwik my siel; Hy lei my in die spore van geregtigheid, om sy Naam ontwil.)
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To: PjhCPA
...as they brainstormed Tuesday on ways to defuse racial tension and help their people earn respect in the aftermath of the North Woods slayings.

This ticks me off! The only reason why there is any "racial tension" to speak of is because lefties and other enabling scum are fomenting it! What the Hmong should have said from the word "go" and up through now is "This is a horrible tragedy. We don't know what happened. Let's wait and see what the facts show before we make anything racial of this. Six people are dead. Let's not slander them. One man is accused. Let's see how his story holds up. Justice will be done." God I hate these lying racialist scum!!!

12 posted on 12/08/2004 5:42:22 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Iowa Granny

Okay, I'll ping you too then


13 posted on 12/08/2004 5:42:33 PM PST by PjhCPA (Armed with what?.....SPITBALLS!!!)
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To: tickles

Vang had an outstanding warrant on him for not paying a fine for tresspassing a few years ago. He was turkey hunting at the time.


14 posted on 12/08/2004 5:43:28 PM PST by PjhCPA (Armed with what?.....SPITBALLS!!!)
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To: tickles

He understands private property just fine.

He OWNS private hunting property in Minnesota.


15 posted on 12/08/2004 5:44:17 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: PjhCPA

I git it. We're gonna teach 'em that huntin' regulations in Wisconsin forbid shootin' people.

Guess they didn't know...


16 posted on 12/08/2004 5:47:27 PM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: PjhCPA

Well at least their leaders are not acting like the leaders of other cultures and marching in support of the criminal even though it obvious that he's wrong.

I'm glad to see that the community is condemning the act and doing something to positive to avoid future incidents.


17 posted on 12/08/2004 5:47:58 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: rogue yam

"This ticks me off! The only reason why there is any "racial tension" to speak of is because lefties and other enabling scum are fomenting it!"

Well said. My thoughts, to the letter!


18 posted on 12/08/2004 5:49:06 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: rogue yam

Why does the media keep saying there is racial tension in WI?

Has there been any hate crimes or vandalism? Where is this coming from?


19 posted on 12/08/2004 5:49:16 PM PST by TFine80
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To: PjhCPA

Hey all you Hmongs out there- read this to get a hunting license:

"fook hunting on private land"

But - you say there's no "fook" in hunting on private land?

EXACTLY!


20 posted on 12/08/2004 5:49:44 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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