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To: yonif
Islam cannot be reformed

Hmm. Seems odd to say something like this since Islam has already been through several manifestations and is different in interpretation and practice from place to place right now. Eventually it will be available in 1000s of flavors just like every other religion. Save the reflex slogans. This is the last gasp of the Baghdad madrassas.

14 posted on 12/08/2004 4:08:26 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RightWhale
Islam has already been through several manifestations... and every single one of them has been violent, misogynistic, oppressive, primitive, bloodthirsty and inhumane.

Therefore, I am not interested in seeing their next demonic manifestation, JUST IN SEEING THEM GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
18 posted on 12/08/2004 4:14:04 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: RightWhale
This is the last gasp of the Baghdad madrassas.

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How do you support this statement when there are over twenty countries around the globe experiencing islamist violence?

35 posted on 12/08/2004 4:59:43 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: RightWhale

Please explain to me how I can be sure that is the *last* gasp.

Please explain why, in view of the history of islam, I should now believe that it has permanently become something other than what it has been since its inception.

Please provide evidence for why if islam achieves dominance, it will not simply oppress and exterminate everyone who chooses not to convert to islam, and will instead behave tolerantly toward the non-islamics in its midst. Please explain why it will completely change its behavior in that regard, from this point forward.

I need all those explanations in order to make an informed decision with regard to how I can trust islam.

Otherwise I'm likely to conclude that it needs to be wiped off the face of the earth so we can all live in peace. Right now, that's the conclusion toward which I'm tending (and it looks like even the CIA has woken up and smelled the nerve gas).

Perhaps your explanations can stop the holocaust... We're all waiting...


68 posted on 12/09/2004 12:05:22 AM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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