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China's Biggest Computer Maker Announces Acquisition of IBM's PC Business
AP ^ | Dec 7, 2004 | Stephanie Hoo

Posted on 12/07/2004 6:32:06 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

China's biggest computer maker, Lenovo Group, said Wednesday it has acquired a majority stake in International Business Machines Corp.'s personal computer business for $1.25 billion, one of the biggest Chinese overseas acquisitions ever.

The deal shifts IBM to a peripheral role in a corner of the technology industry it pioneered.

It creates a joint venture in which Lenovo Group Ltd. takes over the IBM-brand personal computer business, including research and development and manufacturing, while IBM will keep an 18.5 percent stake in the company, said Lenovo's chairman, Liu Chuanzhi.

The deal makes Lenovo the third-largest PC company in the world, he said.

Like other major Chinese manufacturers hoping to expand overseas, Lenovo is planning to leverage a well-known foreign brand name. Liu said the company would be entitled to freely use IBM's brand name in five years' time.

IBM's computer unit had sales of nearly $13 billion over 12 months ended in September.

Lenovo, founded in 1984 by a group of scholars at the government-backed Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing, is China's biggest computer maker and is also the biggest in Asia. Its shares are traded in Hong Kong.

The announcement Wednesday followed reports that a deal was imminent. On Tuesday, Lenovo's Hong Kong unit confirmed it was in talks with a "major international company in the information technology business" but hadn't named the company, saying the negotiations were confidential.

"The bigger the baby, the more difficult the delivery," Liu quipped when asked about the delay in making a formal announcement.

With speculation about the impending deal mounting, IBM's stock fell $1.57 per share to $96.10 in Tuesday's trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

Both IBM and Lenovo have been grappling with the difficulties of turning a profit on PCs, a business that has suffered steep price declines over the past decade thanks to aggressive competition from Dell and upstarts such as eMachines Inc., which was acquired earlier this year by Gateway Inc.

Once a key player in popularizing the personal computer, IBM is now increasing its focus on consulting, outsourcing and software, analysts say.

Its PC business now accounts for a small portion of its total sales and profits, according to analysts. It ranks a distant third in terms of PC units sold, having surrendered the market lead by the late 1990s, according to the technology research firm Gartner Inc.

Globally, IBM sold 6.8 million PCs in the first nine months of 2004 for a 5 percent market share, Gartner said. That compares with 16.4 percent for Dell Inc. and 13.9 percent for Hewlett-Packard Inc., which makes both the HP and Compaq brands.

The companies expect that by combining operations, they'll be able to save money on manufacturing and expand their razor-thin profit margins.

Lenovo faces increased competition at home and in Asia from foreign companies such as Dell. The Beijing-based company, formerly known as Legend, had expanded into cell phone manufacturing and information technology services, with lackluster results. It now says it is focusing on its core computer business again.

IBM was not the first technology company to sell a computer small enough to sit on a desk or table. But it did popularize the idea of a "personal" computer for the mass market with the 1981 introduction of a desktop machine featuring a more user-friendly operating system, a software platform licensed from a then-fledgling company named Microsoft Corp.

IBM, based in Armonk, N.Y., has nearly 320,000 employees.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinese8made; globalism; ibm; lenovo
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To: Dat Mon

Being a lazy b@astard, I'm gonna ask you a favor. Could you post information/links about flextronics? I'm not aware of the firm, but I find the idea intriguing (not troubling, yet).

And for the record, I see $40.00 CD players for sell all the time at drug stores and on the street. Basically they're no name units in a blister pack. IMHO we're about a year away from seeing the MP3 players selling for $50 or less. They're all memory and aside from switches, have no moving parts.

However, I don't agree with your point that India, Chinese, etc. programming of these cheap electronics is inevitable. The U.S. can and should compete in this area. We just have to get our act together. Education, education, education!


81 posted on 12/08/2004 10:11:42 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
"Gee, I wonder how long it will take the hyphenated groups to get out demanding that Lenovo be permitted to put their own people on contract to finish any defense contracts IBM has for their PC division."

IBM or some other outfit will have to have a secure American based facility to produce government PCs...which will fly in the face of the government trends towards COTS hardware and software. This is assuming that congress fulfills their responsibilities and mandates American goods for defense applications. Will they do that in the future?

If trends continue, electronics design and manufacturing in this country is going to consist largely of military and boutique industries, or selected industrial high end manufacturing, where the vendor is dominant.

Perhaps at some point the bar will be even lowered further and we will be buying more and more high tech defense electronics overseas, which I would find very distressing.
82 posted on 12/08/2004 10:20:10 AM PST by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Wonderful!


83 posted on 12/08/2004 10:21:28 AM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Legend Computer
84 posted on 12/08/2004 10:23:07 AM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: durasell
"Being a lazy b@astard, I'm gonna ask you a favor. Could you post information/links about flextronics?"

Id suggest starting with the last issue of ELECTRONIC BUSINESS. They have an interview with several of the top electronics executives, including Marks.

In addition, the publisher of Electronic Business, which is REED ELECTRONICS GROUP has a supplement called MOVERS AND SHAKERS which has an article on Marks.

I apologize that I haven't had the time to pull this stuff together into a post, but there it is.

I recall a similar article about Marks last year in another publication, but I don't recall which one, so Ill have to dig for that one.

Of course, some of the folks on this site can go way beyond me in terms of digging and posting info....some are amazing in what they can find...so maybe somebody will preempt me.

Lets all pool our resources and start getting to the bottom of whats really going on behind the scenes. (the MSM is so lame)
85 posted on 12/08/2004 10:32:30 AM PST by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: jegoing
Screw the Chinese Communists and their computers. I'll build my own machine.

Sure you will, with parts made in China. It is impossible to build a computer with parts made only in the USA.


86 posted on 12/08/2004 10:37:08 AM PST by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: Dat Mon

Thanks! This is something I have a genuine interest in.

For the record, I don't believe the MSM is particularly lame, just cautious. And this is a story that won't be reported until late in the game, for a lot of reasons. However, the best reason is, you would first have to explain what a "commodity" is and what "commodification" of a product is. And then you'd have to explain that it really doesn't matter if you have "Intel Inside" or "AMD Inside." And then you'd have to explain "contract manufacturing" etc. etc. Plus, there are really no images to go along with this type of story.

That's probably the reason the story only appeared in the trade press, because the readers come to the story with a certain amount of pre-existing knowledge.


87 posted on 12/08/2004 10:43:50 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
"However, I don't agree with your point that India, Chinese, etc. programming of these cheap electronics is inevitable. The U.S. can and should compete in this area. We just have to get our act together. Education, education, education!"

Education and future trends in American engineering is an issue which should be dominant.

Andy Grove of Intel sounded the alarm several years ago.

Here is the problem...education is a market driven phenomena, as is salaries. As long as companies can acquire cheap PHd and MS candidates from overseas using H1b visas, there will never be a market driven demand to produce more native American engineers.

I would think that as demand increases for American engineers...salaries would increase...then Americas best and brightest would be driven to pursue engineering education. They would demand that American schools teach engineering math, science starting at high school level, using qualified engineers , not hacks from the NEA.

As long as cheap labor is available...there is no demand to reform our failing educational system. It is a classic case of what engineers call positive feedback...or "a vicious cycle".
88 posted on 12/08/2004 10:44:57 AM PST by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: Dat Mon

No, no, no. Education has to be a national priority, particularly science and technical education. Enough of the bitching and moaning about failing schools and unions and whether a kid gets to say prayers in class. It's all fiddling while Rome burns. (let the flaming begin).

We have to make education a national movement. And we have to do it the way we've done everything -- just jump into it, make a lot of mistakes and then, finally, get it right.


89 posted on 12/08/2004 10:53:03 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
"We have to make education a national movement."

I agree entirely.

But think about what you are suggesting....that a national movement has to step in CORRECT deficiencies in the market approach to education.

This my friend...is the essence of the debate on economics that is playing out in countless threads on this site.

Is the market supreme, always..in all cases?

Or do we have national priorities which must step in...as they did in World War II when the government 'suggested' that GM stop making cars and trucks and start making tanks?
90 posted on 12/08/2004 11:03:13 AM PST by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: jegoing

With chinese parts.


91 posted on 12/08/2004 11:08:52 AM PST by dljordan
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To: oceanview

Yeah, but the executives will get a nice fat bonus.


92 posted on 12/08/2004 11:12:38 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Dat Mon

"America always makes the right decision, after it's exhausted all other possibilities." -- Winston Churchill (slightly paraphrased)

The market is infallible, but the market is not American and it's not moral. And, to be perfectly frank, I don't care. What we need to do is hunt these kids out that have a proclivity and talent for science/technology. You're gonna find them in slums and suburbs and rural areas. You hunt them out and give them scholarships to first rate schools to develop their talents.

Now I'm gonna be called a "socialist" and a "Marxist" and maybe Ann Coulter will show up on my door and beat me about the head with a baseball bat as Rush pokes me with a pointy stick.


93 posted on 12/08/2004 11:13:37 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: A CA Guy

Yep, they're outsourcing as fast as they can.


94 posted on 12/08/2004 11:13:45 AM PST by dljordan
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To: chimera
Plenty of burger-building jobs for those displaced EEs and system engineers.

Hey! Thats a manufacturing job dontcha'know!

95 posted on 12/08/2004 11:16:40 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: durasell

"and maybe Ann Coulter will show up on my door"

Now youre talkin....Im sure Ann will be wearing an appropriate outfit too!


96 posted on 12/08/2004 11:17:44 AM PST by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: Dat Mon

Kind of a cross between Mrs. Peel and Uma Thurman.


97 posted on 12/08/2004 11:19:27 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Dat Mon
RE: IBM or some other outfit will have to have a secure American based facility to produce government PCs. . . .

That's a good point.

If $800 toilet seats were bad I cannot imagine the cost of an office PC for government.

However there were news stories a year or two ago about efforts to limit foreigner contractors from working on certain federal contracts. The body shops that use H1B contractors and various advocacy groups raised so much hell that the plan was scraped or severely weakened.

98 posted on 12/08/2004 11:24:47 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Yeah, I heard that. Building those Monster Thickburgers would probably be considered "heavy" industry (boo!).
99 posted on 12/08/2004 11:29:15 AM PST by chimera
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To: durasell

"Kind of a cross between Mrs. Peel and Uma Thurman."

You nailed it!

Diana Rigg as Emma Peel...the pioneer and prototype for lots of women to follow.

Menza in tight leather pants. Add blonde hair...shaken but not stirred...


100 posted on 12/08/2004 11:29:17 AM PST by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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