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No, blame political correctness. Put young men and women together in close quarters, whether in coed dormitories or the military -- and you will get trouble. Particularly girls who get drunk and still expect to be treated as a lady.
1 posted on 12/07/2004 4:36:17 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

Somehow this will be Bush's fault.


2 posted on 12/07/2004 4:37:27 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: heye2monn
If these women training to be officers can not handle other US military how can they handle the enemy. Where is their backbone and authority to command troops?
4 posted on 12/07/2004 4:41:47 PM PST by roylene
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To: heye2monn

AP hit piece written after the reporter viewed The Generals Daughter for background information.


5 posted on 12/07/2004 4:43:18 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: heye2monn
Get rid of the girls and the trouble will stop.

And just when I was thinking of encouraging my grandson to think about the Air Force.

7 posted on 12/07/2004 4:47:05 PM PST by mickie
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To: heye2monn

Another increment in the incrementalism to destroy the military or, at least, make it into the welfare commune of liberalism and therefore, useless as tits on a boar hog.


8 posted on 12/07/2004 4:47:52 PM PST by caisson71
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To: heye2monn

Exactly. Or girls who get drunk, don't act like a lady, and then sober up.


10 posted on 12/07/2004 4:50:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: heye2monn
When I was there in the 60s, we didn't have any sex scandals. Everybody got along just fine and it was one of the most magnificent places in the USA to be. Now sex scandals are all they worry about!

I wonder what's changed?...

11 posted on 12/07/2004 4:50:50 PM PST by Gritty ("Experience keeps a dear school, yet Fools will learn in no other"-Benjamin Franklin)
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To: heye2monn

After seeing Linny Englund in her pictoral debut from Abu Garaib, let's not conclude that the boys are the only ones causing a problem here.


12 posted on 12/07/2004 4:52:08 PM PST by digger48
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To: heye2monn

Damned if you do and Damned if you don't!!


16 posted on 12/07/2004 5:01:10 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: heye2monn

I never thought it was a good idea to put women in the Academies. The cadets are at their prime, and they are so isolated from normal social life that this is inevitable.


22 posted on 12/07/2004 5:19:33 PM PST by Swede Girl
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To: heye2monn

The woman's state of mind does not in any way validate improper behavior.


33 posted on 12/07/2004 5:48:53 PM PST by Stratman
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The problem at the Air Force Academy is putting women there, PERIOD. A blind man could have seen this trouble coming. The commanders are not the problem. The problem is human sexuality which has been with us for lo these many thousands of years.

Memo to the Pentagon: You are damn fools for opening up these academies to women. You have guaranteed serious problems in perpetuity. This is a nightmare that will never end. It will occupy the efforts of very good men in a hopeless battle against the inevitable consequences of human sexuality in young people.

To hell with whether this country can win a war with a well-trained military officer corps, we're too busy trying and failing to keep young cadets out of each others' pants.

The Pentagon leadership cannot win a war. They cannot even figure out the difference between women and men.

The Pentagon cannot defeat terrorism. They can't even defeat the communist lawyers of the ACLU and have thrown the Boy Scouts of America to the wolves.

Shame on the Pentagon and its cowardice and its reckless disregard for honor. Our senior military leadership is a disgrace to our proud military traditions and history.

35 posted on 12/07/2004 5:49:40 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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Only 150??? No problem here, they are not gentlemen until they graduate, so until then, boys will be boys.


37 posted on 12/07/2004 5:52:28 PM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: heye2monn

Coed military academies are a ridiculous JOKE


45 posted on 12/07/2004 6:26:30 PM PST by uncbob
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To: heye2monn

Agreed! Young people at the peak of their drive and at the nadir of their common sense.


50 posted on 12/07/2004 6:31:47 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: heye2monn

The larger problem here is the emasculation of the military. It is a process that has been going on for many years. The academies are insecure about there role in society (I say this as a West Point graduate) and in order to maintain favor with politicians who control the purse strings, they are always at the forfront of their respective services in integrating women into their organization.

The men see the double standard and are disgusted by it. Political correctness has run amok and soldiers, sailors and airmen who were once very loyal to their services and to the nation are tired of putting up with the bs.

Remember how Elaine Donnelly of the center of military readiness exposed the double standards designed to create women fighter pilots in the Navy? She was litigated ad naseaum by the feminist military lobby. One man, in uniform, could never stand up against the imposers of "women in the military," he would be toast the minute he raised his head.

Now all the guys just go along to get along. But there exists a lot of resentment.


51 posted on 12/07/2004 6:40:28 PM PST by OldCorps
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Have separate academies. If the women who want to join the military really want to do it for the right reasons, they shouldn't mind a bit if they're not among the men. They can even claim separate, but equal. I say 'claim' because I don't believe that women ARE capable of the same physical or emotional fortitude as men. It's just the way we're designed.

If women want true 'equality' in a military setting, perhaps they could show themselves to be up to the challenge and quit using accusations of harrassment to 'achieve' whatever it is they're seeking.

Flame away, ladies and gents. :o)


56 posted on 12/07/2004 7:00:07 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: heye2monn
No, blame political correctness. Put young men and women together in close quarters, whether in coed dormitories or the military -- and you will get trouble. Particularly girls who get drunk and still expect to be treated as a lady.

This happened because a group of young men and/or women couldn't follow orders and a code of conduct. If they can't live up to that code of conduct, then they have no place in our military, especially as officers.

Trying to blame the environment (being in close quarters), circumstances (alcohol involved), whatever - that's the easy way out, and one that most liberals take. I'm not saying your a liberal - I think your probably as upset as any of us are, and trying to find an excuse. The fact is, there is no excuse for their conduct.

It doesn't matter if it's young men and women or if they are together. They had orders and a code of conduct to follow. If they can't follow those now, I can't trust them to follow, uphold, and especially give orders just a few years down the road when they graduate, when they may have the lives of others in their hands.
61 posted on 12/07/2004 7:36:28 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: heye2monn

The arguements about coed service withstanding, rapists are rapists. There is no blame here - when a woman says no she means it.


79 posted on 12/08/2004 8:08:11 AM PST by stacytec
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To: heye2monn
It's very stupid to have communal barracks or housing, where the nearest sweetie is 6 feet across the hallway. Seperate the housing into different buildings. Our tax dollars spend over $60K per year on each cadet trying to make them learn advanced concepts. Getting horny is something to be done without tax dollars. They should go to class together, but not live within feet of each other.

In the 80's I saw so many women get pregnant and leave the AF during my nine-month tech school after basic training.

And make the courses stricter. I had 6 hours of class and 5 hours of homework every single day.

Whatever happened to that?

And I recently learned the University of Brasil is 50% tougher than California State University. It takes a month to learn any language, and almost all technical terms are English.

85 posted on 12/08/2004 6:40:07 PM PST by BobS
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