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Cost of illegal immigration in California estimated at nearly $9 billion (VERY INFORMATIVE!!!)
North County Times ^ | 12/06/2004 | EDWARD SIFUENTES - Staff Writer

Posted on 12/07/2004 1:00:09 PM PST by SierraWasp

Cost of illegal immigration in California estimated at nearly $9 billion

By: EDWARD SIFUENTES - Staff Writer

California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year, according to a new report released last week by the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group that promotes stricter immigration policies.

Educating the children of illegal immigrants is the largest cost, estimated at $7.7 billion each year, according to the report. Medical care for illegal immigrants and incarceration of those who have committed crimes are the next two largest expenses measured in the study, the author said.

Pro-immigrant groups and Latino researchers dispute the federation's findings, calling them biased and incomplete.

Jack Martin, who wrote the report, said Thursday that the $9 billion figure does not include other expenses that are difficult to measure, such as special English instruction, school lunch programs, and welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal immigrant workers.

"It's a bottom of the range number," Martin said.

The federation is one of the nation's leading lobbying groups aimed at curbing immigration into the country.

Authors of the report say it culls information from the U.S. Census and other studies addressing the cost of illegal immigration into the country to draw its conclusions.

Gerardo Gonzalez, director of Cal State San Marcos' National Latino Research Center, which compiles data on Latinos, criticized the report. He said it does not measure some of the contributions that immigrants make to the state's economy.

"Beyond taxes, these workers' production and spending contribute to California's economy, especially the agricultural sector," Gonzalez said.

Immigrants, both legal and illegal, are the backbone of the state's nearly $28 billion-a-year agricultural industry, Gonzalez and other researchers say.

More than two-thirds of the estimated 340,000 agriculture workers in California are noncitizens, most of whom are believed to be illegal immigrants, according to a 1998 study on farmworkers prepared for the state Legislature.

Local farmers say migrant farmworkers are critical to their businesses, and without them they would have to close their farms or move their operations overseas.

Martin disagrees. He said illegal immigrants displace American workers by taking low-skilled jobs, keep wages low by creating an overabundance of workers and stifle innovation by reducing the need for mechanized labor.

"The product of the illegal immigrant is not included (in the report) because if that is an essential product it will get done one way or another," Martin said. Employers "would have to pay better wages or invest money on mechanization."

Martin's study looks specifically at the costs of educating illegal immigrants' children, providing medical care to illegal immigrants and jailing those convicted of committing crimes. The report estimates the total cost at $10.5 billion each year, but that is offset by about $1.7 billion in taxes that illegal immigrants pay.

The study assumes that there are about 1 million children of illegal immigrant parents in California, or about 15 percent of the state's K-12 school enrolled population. The estimate is based on a 1994 study by the Urban Institute that concluded there were 307,000 illegal immigrant children enrolled in the state's public schools.

Martin also added an estimate of 597,000 U.S.-born children whose parents are illegal immigrants arriving at a total of 1,022,000 children. Multiplying the number of children by the estimated $7,577 the state spends on average per pupil, the study arrived at the $7.7 billion figure.

Including the number of U.S.-born children in the study is one of the reasons pro-immigrant groups said the study is biased.

"I think FAIR is without doubt an extremist organization that tries to portray itself as a mainstream group," said Christian Ramirez, director of the San Diego office of the American Friends Service Committee, an advocate group for legal and illegal immigrants.

The study's author defended the report, saying that the children were born in the United States as a result of their parents' illegal entry into the country.

"In no way does the report identify them as different kinds of citizens, because they would not have been born in the U.S. had their parents not come into the country illegally," Martin said.

To arrive at the cost of providing health care to illegal immigrants, the federation's study used an earlier 2000 analysis of health expenses paid by border counties that concluded the state spent $908 million on medical care for immigrants.

Martin said he adjusted the 2000 figure for increases in the population and inflation on the cost of providing health care and estimated that the state will spend about $1.4 billion in 2004.

The report also estimated that the state will spend another $1.4 billion to jail the 48,000 illegal immigrants in state prisons. California is compensated by the federal government to offset the cost of housing this population, but the federal payments were a fraction, about $111 million, of the total cost, Martin said.

To figure out the contributions that this immigrant population makes in taxes, the federation's study said it adjusted the Urban Institute's study estimates of $732 million for population increases and concluded that they contribute about $1.7 billion in sales, income and property taxes.

A similar study conducted by the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, D.C., and released in August, said that illegal immigrants cost the federal government $10 billion more than they pay in taxes.

The federal government pays about $2.2 billion in medical treatment for uninsured immigrants, according to the report. It pays $1.9 billion in food assistance programs, such as food stamps and school lunches, for low-income families. And it pays $1.4 billion in aid to schools that educate illegal immigrant children.

Martin said states bear most of the cost of illegal immigration.

"State costs are much higher on a per capita basis because of the fact that the largest expenses are medical care and education and those are borne at the local level, not the federal," Martin said.

The federation's full report is at: www.fairus.org.

Contact staff writer Edward Sifuentes at (760) 740-5426 or esifuentes@nctimes.com.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afsc; aliens; borders; cheaplabor; criminal; fair; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; taxpayers
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I've done my part on this subject. Voted yes for prop 187, then sold my house to someone who is paying twice as much property tax on the same property. I admit it doesn't help that I'm not contributing $20,000 in state income tax to California every year. Idaho is happy with half that amount.
41 posted on 12/07/2004 2:44:56 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: MayflowerMadam

YOu are so right. I took this very issue up with Monica Crowley on WABC NY last week. Hillary is already making noises about being against Illegal Immigration and against Bush's Amensty plans.

Unfortunately, I cannot remember where I read about it. If it comes to me, I'll post it.

This is the open door for the Dems into the 2008 Whitehouse. And they will promise us anything to get back into power. And this is the issue which cuts across party lines and unites the country. If the Reps don't do it, the Demns will be more than happy,


42 posted on 12/07/2004 2:46:57 PM PST by HonestConservative (Put a live pig on every plane!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

We need Tom McClintock. John and Ken have certainly made Drier and others look at the issue. GOP had better get their ducks in order by 2008... Hillary will use illegal immigration as platform and there goes the party. Arnold is certainly better than Davis.... but starting to bend to liberals, hispanics. All talk no action


43 posted on 12/07/2004 2:48:57 PM PST by newfrpr04
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To: untrained skeptic
So you think that the illegal immigrant problem in CA is Bush's fault?

Last I heard, illegal aliens cross a *Federal* border. They enter from Texas, Arizona, and California.

Yes, It's Bush's fault. The buck stops with him.

And are you also going to blame the epic invasion of Illinois, Colorado, North Carolina, Texas, Arizona, Tennessee, Idaho, Oregon, Nevada etc, etc on California too?

44 posted on 12/07/2004 2:49:08 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Which means that if there are 15 million illegals+ in total as is widely believed then the country as a whole is spending about $45 billion on illegals.

It would cost us less than that to round every one of them up and ship them out.

Two points:

Point One: So much for the Republican/Democrat canard, "Do you want to pay $6 for a head of lettuce?"

Guess what? We're paying a lot more than $6.

Point Two: Eliminate benefits for illegals. Many of them will deport themselves, and fewer will sneak into the country in the first place.

45 posted on 12/07/2004 2:55:10 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: SierraWasp

Don't look now but guess who gets it!

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/21/233417.shtml


46 posted on 12/07/2004 3:02:26 PM PST by HonestConservative (Put a live pig on every plane!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
And just so you know, it was President Bush that appointed Federal Judge David C. Bury, the judge that blocked AZ Proposition 200 from becoming law.

Always the big issues you will find the "Two-Party Cartel" side with the liberal bent. Remember there will be NO true conservatives put on the Supreme Court. There will be no substantial reform of illegal immigration. NOT until we all vote outside of the box.

47 posted on 12/07/2004 3:07:58 PM PST by Digger
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To: HonestConservative
his is the open door for the Dems into the 2008 Whitehouse. And they will promise us anything to get back into power. And this is the issue which cuts across party lines and unites the country. If the Reps don't do it, the Demns will be more than happy

They will talk it but then won't implement it.

48 posted on 12/07/2004 3:09:39 PM PST by Digger
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To: Digger
Always the big issues you will find the "Two-Party Cartel" side with the liberal bent. Remember there will be NO true conservatives put on the Supreme Court. There will be no substantial reform of illegal immigration. NOT until we all vote outside of the box.

That is exactly what it's going to take.

Until then, we've been had!

49 posted on 12/07/2004 3:11:39 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: MayflowerMadam
You're wrong about us Republicans in California

I was referring to the politicians in their ivory towers, the ones who refuse to listen to us and are selling us out. I'm one of those (ex) Republicans who are absolutely fed up with the mess that California is experiencing.

Can't stand Hillary, but I agree with what she said about being against illegal immigration, though she probably didn't mean it.

50 posted on 12/07/2004 3:21:15 PM PST by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA = MEXIFORNIA - ILLEGAL ALIEN HEAVEN)
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To: SierraWasp
From the article:
"I think FAIR is without doubt an extremist organization that tries to portray itself as a mainstream group," said Christian Ramirez, director of the San Diego office of the American Friends Service Committee, an advocate group for legal and illegal immigrants.

This Commie group is calling FAIR "extremist"? That's funny!

51 posted on 12/07/2004 3:49:14 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Area51

FYI - Those pics sure freeze up my computer... after 2 minutes, they still won't load (with hi-speed connection on this end).


52 posted on 12/07/2004 3:55:41 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

The American Friends Service Committee are Peacenick Quakers, if I'm not mistaken! They're the "Peace at ANY price," "America is ALWAYS wrong," goofy-ginks!!!


53 posted on 12/07/2004 4:04:52 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: HonestConservative
Interesting, to say the least about the beast!!!

Dang it! I hate swatting those pop-ups!!!

54 posted on 12/07/2004 4:08:03 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: HonestConservative
Hillary is already making noises about being against Illegal Immigration and against Bush's Amensty plans.

She is making a (fake) move to the center. Her interview with Greta on Fox was positively frightening.

55 posted on 12/07/2004 4:16:32 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Uncle Vlad
Point Two: Eliminate benefits for illegals. Many of them will deport themselves, and fewer will sneak into the country in the first place.

You bet. Right now they have a big incentive to come to the US.

56 posted on 12/07/2004 4:18:29 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Do they know how to do anything but lie? I'm glad I didn't see her on Greta. Her voice gives me nightmares.

What we must do is keep the pressure on, so that the GOP knows that if they don't TCB on their watch, they are putting their incumbants in jeopardy the next time around. Of course, conservatives won't support Hillary, but if HRC gets it, then someone else more palatable, maybe Evan Bayh(sp?) can get it as well.

My country first, my party second.


57 posted on 12/07/2004 4:32:42 PM PST by HonestConservative (Put a live pig on every plane!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

it has occurred to me that californians are experiencing payback time...remember ..late 1700's /early1800's,i'm no us history buff, but i do know that it's factual history that the mexicans lost california to the usa and have been waiting for decades to take it back..it now appears that they have reacquired the state and that the citizens of the usa are going to be paying for this enchilada for generations to come...bcboy


58 posted on 12/07/2004 4:38:54 PM PST by bc boy (bc boy again)
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To: texasborn1960

what's a shift key...a helpful device used by degenerate politcians????????HEY>>I THINK I FOUND IT>>>>WHOOPPEEEEEE


60 posted on 12/07/2004 4:55:56 PM PST by bc boy (bc boy again)
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