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Non-Embryonic Stem Cell Testimonial from Russia: Spinal Cord Injuries Reversed
LifeSite ^ | December 6, 2004

Posted on 12/07/2004 7:36:11 AM PST by NYer

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Doctors in Russia Prove that Non-Embryonic Stem Cells cad be Used in Treating Spinal Cord Injuries

21 posted on 12/07/2004 10:20:19 AM PST by Coleus (I support ethical, effective and safe stem cell research and use: adult, umbilical cord, bone marrow)
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To: babygene
Clearly adult stem cells from the patient circumvent the problem of rejection and that alone makes it a better choice. However, it does not lend it's self to mass production by the drug companies, and therefore is less profitable.

That makes sense.

I heard the author of "Overdosing America" on CSPAN this weekend. Veeeeeeery interesting.

22 posted on 12/07/2004 11:23:02 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: NYer

Do you think "dance belt" knows about this?


23 posted on 12/07/2004 11:29:49 AM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry is now a kept man . . .)
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To: babygene
"are more suited to the mass production of pharmaceuticals.

Follow the money..."

To be fair, mass production of stem cell treatment would make treatment more affordable as well. Customized adult stem cell treatment will always be more expensive than a one treatment fits all approach.
24 posted on 12/07/2004 12:16:26 PM PST by monday
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To: monday
" To be fair, mass production of stem cell treatment would make treatment more affordable as well."

Do you think for a minute that being more affordable is part of their motive?

For that matter, people who have spinal cord injures are almost always on Social Security disability. SS does not pay for drugs (yet), and individual therapy would be more likely to be covered by SS.
25 posted on 12/07/2004 12:41:11 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Kelly_2000

Being religious and respectful of life does not make you a zealot either.


26 posted on 12/07/2004 12:44:14 PM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: babygene
"Do you think for a minute that being more affordable is part of their motive?"

Who cares what their motive is as long as the result is more affordable treatment? No one is in business to give consumers a good deal, but thanks to the market system, that is the result.

Incidentally, only a socialist would rather social security pay for more expensive treatment over less expensive treatment that anyone could afford.
27 posted on 12/07/2004 12:49:53 PM PST by monday
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To: monday; Ohioan from Florida; Aquinasfan; NYer; sartorius; bubbleb; Kelly_2000; EagleUSA; ...

"Incidentally, only a socialist would rather social security pay for more expensive treatment over less expensive treatment that anyone could afford."

Oh?

Only a murderer would rather kill a baby to get stem cells than get them from an adult with no killing involved.


28 posted on 12/07/2004 9:41:26 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: babygene
"We have treated about 15 patients with SCI. The results depend on degree of damage of spinal cord."

I would think results would also depend on how soon this procedure was done after the initial accident or lesion.
29 posted on 12/07/2004 9:59:05 PM PST by Balata
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To: Balata

" I would think results would also depend on how soon this procedure was done after the initial accident or lesion."

Wouldn't that be the same for both adult and fetal stem cells?


30 posted on 12/07/2004 10:43:25 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: rightwingcrazy
They must have seen the cloned nose scene in Sleeper.

I loved that one! "Checking the cell structure...." !!

But it's funny that you should mention Sleeper in connection with this thread, a Russian eye doctor developed radial keratotomy (a surgical treatment for nearsightedness that was the forerunner of today's Lasik surgery) when he saw that people depicted 200 years from now were wearing glasses, and he thought that was odd. I'm not ready to dismiss this as Russian snake oil quite yet.

31 posted on 12/07/2004 10:54:53 PM PST by hunter112 (Total victory, both in the USA and the Middle East!)
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To: babygene
"Only a murderer would rather kill a baby to get stem cells"

I wasn't aware that babies were killed specifically to get their stem cells. I don't believe they are.

I am anti abortion, but also a realist. If a baby is going to be aborted anyway, why not use it's stem cells if they might help someone else? Doing so is equivalent to organ donation in my mind. Are you against that as well?

In the best of all possible worlds there would never be any abortions, and never any spinal cord injuries either. We don't live in a perfect world however. I believe in making the most of what we have rather than railing against reality.

Incidentally, I am against government sponsored stem cell research.
32 posted on 12/08/2004 8:04:58 AM PST by monday
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33 posted on 12/12/2004 6:08:38 AM PST by firewalk
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To: neverdem

Did you see this? FYI....


34 posted on 12/12/2004 9:00:46 PM PST by GummyIII (Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow.)
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