Democrat senator John Kerry did not think this was important.
Democrat senator John Kerry did not think this was important.
Eh. We can still kick Finland's @$$. ;-)
I a predict a generation of bankers; and Federal Reserve employees out of this group.....
(Is it possible it's wrong?)
Democrat senator John Kerry did not think this was important.
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Of course not. Educating our children would mean the end to the far-left liberal Dems, especially in our educations system. As I continue to say, the Dems are not interested in this country and its people, JUST HAVING POWER AND CONTROL OVER THEM....welcome to communism with a happy face on it.
I figure this is a good thing. That way, when I am 60, there will be less people in their mid-40's trying to knock me out of my job to take my place.
But at least the kids feel good about themselves.
Could it be that American students know how to use a calculator and a computer? Was either one allowed in the testing center?
i've found it's a badge of honor to be bad at math. i tutor people (pre-college to MBA). it seems each has an ingrained block which isn't that hard to remove.
in all fairness, i don't know if i could teach a full class.
I fail to see how this affects long-term economic growth. Many of the internationals that excel at math will move to the US to make more money. Besides there are plenty of Americans that are good at math. The overall average may be low but capable Americans are not an endangered species.
NEA: Our kids may not be good at math but hey, they feel good about themselves and that's what's important.
It would be interesting to see the real numbers here. Does anyone know where the data is? (already tried googling.) I would akso like to see the actual numbers broken out at the high end.
But I bet they have better self-esteem.
Bogus stats.
Those other countries are predominantly homogenous. But the US is comprised of many subcultures. Large minority subcultures that fail to emphasize academic pursuits are factored into the stats. When you remove those subgroups from the calculation, the groups that have always done well continue to do well. Those are the kids who will rise to the top to become the scientists, engineers, accountants, analysts, CFO's etc. of tomorrow. They exist in large enough numbers that we would compare favorably with any industrialized nation when comparing the talent pools.
These kinds of studies are used to induce public panic and cause politicians to our more into schools for new programs. That money does no good for the kids who are underacheiving, and is not needed by the kids who are acheiving. But it empowers the NEA's social agenda.
This is a perfect example of how to tell a half truth or how to lie with statistics. I would suggest that if you just looked at whites our scores would go up. If you just looked at American Asians they would rank at or above Asian countries. If you took the Hispanic scores they would be down around where Mexico is.
Most of the countries above us have few minority groups to contend with. If you add in the reading part of the test, some of those above us that do have large minorities, like Germany, fall below us. Further, by the time this age group is tested, many countries like Japan and Germany have moved lower performers out of the system and into trade schools.
If you want to talk about the problems we do have so be it, but this stuff is BS.
As long as we have the H1B program, it doesn't matter. ;)
butt wear still pritty good at englush, ain't we?
More and more, there is a graphical user interface ("GUI") being applied to more and more tasks, and math computation skill is not required.
There are more jobs for GUI makers, but there, is where strong math computational skill is a plus that is matched by the supply of students who are so armed.
Technically, I'm in the GUI maintenance business. I keep the GUI's going for my bosses, clients, customers.
GUI is fast becoming the no. 1 industry, world-wide.
Except for France, nonoe of these countries have large relatively uneducated demographic groups that go to poor schools & have a culture of resisting education, and of condemning educational achievement.
The article also mentions that there are "half as many top tier math students in the US." Yes, proportional to our population, that's probably true - but then again, our population is ten times larger than that of Iceland (300,000) and over six times larger than Finland (6,000,000), and I seriously doubt if either Iceland or Finland have large demographic subgroups that are poorly educated or entirely uneducated (especially in the native language.) So *of course* proportionately we're going to have less "top tier" students.
Finally, most of these countries (as far as I know) begin tracking students into vocational vs. academic tracks from the sixth grade on. Do the vocational students participate in the same testing pool & database that's being compared to American students? I think not. After the TIMS test of four years ago (where Americans also scored in about the same place as in this recent survey), a school administrator told me that while her school was picked to participate in the TIMS study, they were to test *everyone* in the school, not just the college-bound; not just the AP students. If so, then this whole international comparison is entirely bogus, because the groups being compared are *not* the same.