[Howlin]

Howlin, you ever hear it discussed that a jury is not under obligation to follow the law, that they can decide as they see fit and that is actually a protection for the accused when the law is wrong. It has happened.

Yes, I have.

But I've never heard it discussed that they can go out and do their own investigations, have you?

Nor have I ever heard of a judge keeping a juror on the panel who refuses to DELIBERATE, have you?

[BJungNan]

But I've never heard it discussed that they can go out and do their own investigations, have you?

Nor have I ever heard of a judge keeping a juror on the panel who refuses to DELIBERATE, have you?

On the first point, certainly not. On the second, if they refuse to deliberate because the other jurors refuse to deliberate his (his/her for battin 1000) points, then it is another matter. I'm sorry, I don't have the particulars of the juror that refused to diliberate. But there must be more to it than that. What, they just said, sorry, I'm not interested? My guide has always been, when something sounds that odd, either someone is really that stupid or there is something else going on.