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December 7th, 1941 -Pearl Harbor Remembrance!
Many | December 7th, 1941 | Mixed-Self & Others

Posted on 12/07/2004 6:10:50 AM PST by M. Espinola

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To: mainepatsfan

Good Going. As big as the War on Terror is, WWII was our last huge and global shooting war. To have it forgotten too early would be tragic, and events such as the present just develop that much faster.


61 posted on 12/07/2004 9:41:45 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Aye! I like that site. Nice pic, too, BTW.


62 posted on 12/07/2004 9:42:21 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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Everyone driving around in their Mitsubishi's, Toyota's, infiniti's, honda's, lexus', acura's, nissan's, subaru's, and other crap boxes: Be sure to Remember today!


63 posted on 12/07/2004 9:44:56 AM PST by Legion04
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Super job! Lest we forget.....


64 posted on 12/07/2004 9:45:09 AM PST by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: Frank_Discussion

I've actually talked to people who thought we lost more men in Vietnam than WWII. Scary.


65 posted on 12/07/2004 9:45:24 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: texson66; M. Espinola
Yes, M. Espinola did a super job and all I could do was be a nit picking detail guy! I feel so ashamed.
66 posted on 12/07/2004 9:48:45 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I'm a monthly donor and all I get is this stupid tagline.)
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To: M. Espinola

Great post, thanks!


67 posted on 12/07/2004 9:48:58 AM PST by adaven
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To: M. Espinola

History we can't forget bump.

Thank you for this. Lots of photos I have never seen before.


68 posted on 12/07/2004 9:49:24 AM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: M. Espinola

Great work. Thanks so much for doing this.

I saw this at another site:

"Remember Pearl Harbor" is a phrase that the baby boomers and the elderly understand. For those millions of Americans not in one of those two groups, December 7th is simply 18 days before Christmas.

The September 11th attack was made possible--in part--because our intelligence services, politicians and Americans forgot about Pearl Harbor.

When a nuclear bomb is detonated by a terrorist in an American city killing hundreds of thousands, it will be because intelligence services, politicians and Americans forgot about September 11th.

http://www.etherzone.com/cgi-bin/gm/blog.shtml



69 posted on 12/07/2004 9:49:57 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: Legion04

We beat the dog snot out of the Japanese, then showed them true compassion in helping them rebuild their country. Now they are friends and steadfast allies in the WOT. Lighten up.


71 posted on 12/07/2004 9:57:00 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: mainepatsfan

Whoo...


72 posted on 12/07/2004 9:57:19 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: bullseye876

There are some in my age group who do have a clue. My mother's father was in the army when the war started and saw action in pretty much every part of the European theatre. My other grandfather was a little younger and joined the navy in the summer of 1945. Luckily for him (and by default me as well) Truman decided to remove Hiroshima and Nagasaki from the map instead of going ahead with the invasion of Japan. That would have been a nightmare beyond anything we can imagine.


73 posted on 12/07/2004 9:57:28 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan; All

I'm 35. Just to get an idea of our ages, could I get an age roll call?


74 posted on 12/07/2004 10:00:28 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion

I really wonder how different the media was sixty years ago than it is today. The difference back then was the government could use censorship during the war. I have a book of the New York Times front pages during the war. They haven't changed much.


75 posted on 12/07/2004 10:02:11 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Frank_Discussion

Just turned 28 on Sunday.


76 posted on 12/07/2004 10:03:06 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Frank_Discussion

34.

My parents were 2 and 6 when Pearl Harbor was attacked. My grandparents did all they could, but they were too old to enlist--worked in shipyards in Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and on air bases in New Mexico.


77 posted on 12/07/2004 10:05:56 AM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: Betis70

That was a big difference of that war compared to today. Every citizen was involved in the war effort. No one was exempt.


78 posted on 12/07/2004 10:09:34 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: TMSuchman
http://www.worldwariihistory.info/Medal-of-Honor/Pearl-Harbor.html

Link: Medal-of-Honor/Pearl-Harbor.

If Dorie Miller meets the qualifications of the others awarded the Medal of Honor, by all means he must also be awarded.

Additional photos of Dorie Miller:

Doris Miller, Mess Attendant Second Class, USN Receives the Navy Cross from Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, at an awards ceremony held on the flight deck of USS Enterprise (CV-6) at Pearl Harbor, 27 May 1942. The medal was awarded for heroism on board USS West Virginia (BB-48) during the Pearl Harbor Attack, 7 December 1941.

Lieutenant Commander Clarence W. McClusky, Jr., USN, Air Group Commander, USS Enterprise (CV-6) Receives the Distinguished Flying Cross from Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, at an awards ceremony held on the Enterprise's flight deck at Pearl Harbor, 27 May 1942. In the foreground, right, is Mess Attendant Second Class Doris Miller, who received the Navy Cross.

Doris Miller, Mess Attendant First Class, USN Speaking during a visit to the Naval Training Station, Great Lakes, Illinois, on 7 January 1943. He is wearing the Navy Cross medal, awarded for heroism during the Pearl Harbor Attack, 7 December 1941.

(He should have be given a far higher rank.)

Doris Miller, Mess Attendant First Class, USN Talking with three other sailors and a civilian, during his visit to the Naval Training Station, Great Lakes, Illinois, 7 January 1943. He is wearing the Navy Cross medal, awarded for heroism during the Pearl Harbor Attack, 7 December 1941.

In the early 1940's these Americans we fighting two wars. USS Miller (DE-1091; later FF-1091), 1973-199_ USS Miller, a 3963-ton Knox class escort ship, was built at Westwego, Louisiana. Commissioned in June 1973, her active service was performed with the Atlantic Fleet, including deployments to the Mediterranean, Northern Europe, the Persian Gulf and the Black Sea. In July 1975, she was reclassified as a frigate and designated FF-1091. Miller transferred to the Naval Reserve Force in January 1982, and thereafter was employed in the western Atlantic and Caribbean areas. She decommissioned in October 1991 and was stricken from the Naval Vessel Register in 1995. She is currently being retained for eventual sale to a foreign navy.

USS Miller was named in honor of Cook Third Class Doris Miller (1919-1943), who won the Navy Cross for heroism during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, 7 December 1941.

79 posted on 12/07/2004 10:09:54 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

My first scout master was on board the USS California and came up from the engine room to fight on deck. He passed away many years ago but I still remember his iron fist handshake and gentle nature. God bless you John Feretti.


80 posted on 12/07/2004 10:14:22 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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